Saturday, August 15, 2009

A Time for Choosing - Ronald Reagan Oct 1964

A TIME FOR CHOOSING (The Speech – October 27, 1964)
(Video at Further Adventures of Indigo Red)

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you and good evening. The sponsor has been identified, but unlike most television programs, the performer hasn't been provided with a script. As a matter of fact, I have been permitted to choose my own words and discuss my own ideas regarding the choice that we face in the next few weeks.

I have spent most of my life as a Democrat. I recently have seen fit to follow another course. I believe that the issues confronting us cross party lines. Now, one side in this campaign has been telling us that the issues of this election are the maintenance of peace and prosperity. The line has been used, "We've never had it so good."

But I have an uncomfortable feeling that this prosperity isn't something on which we can base our hopes for the future. No nation in history has ever survived a tax burden that reached a third of its national income. Today, 37 cents out of every dollar earned in this country is the tax collector's share, and yet our government continues to spend 17 million dollars a day more than the government takes in. We haven't balanced our budget 28 out of the last 34 years. We've raised our debt limit three times in the last twelve months, and now our national debt is one and a half times bigger than all the combined debts of all the nations of the world. We have 15 billion dollars in gold in our treasury; we don't own an ounce. Foreign dollar claims are 27.3 billion dollars. And we've just had announced that the dollar of 1939 will now purchase 45 cents in its total value.

As for the peace that we would preserve, I wonder who among us would like to approach the wife or mother whose husband or son has died in South Vietnam and ask them if they think this is a peace that should be maintained indefinitely. Do they mean peace, or do they mean we just want to be left in peace? There can be no real peace while one American is dying some place in the world for the rest of us. We're at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind in his long climb from the swamp to the stars, and it's been said if we lose that war, and in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening. Well I think it's time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that were intended for us by the Founding Fathers.

Not too long ago, two friends of mine were talking to a Cuban refugee, a businessman who had escaped from Castro, and in the midst of his story one of my friends turned to the other and said, "We don't know how lucky we are." And the Cuban stopped and said, "How lucky you are? I had someplace to escape to." And in that sentence he told us the entire story. If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth.

And this idea that government is beholden to the people, that it has no other source of power except the sovereign people, is still the newest and the most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man.

This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.

You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right. Well I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There's only an up or down—[up] man's old—old-aged dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.

In this vote-harvesting time, they use terms like the "Great Society," or as we were told a few days ago by the President, we must accept a greater government activity in the affairs of the people. But they've been a little more explicit in the past and among themselves; and all of the things I now will quote have appeared in print. These are not Republican accusations. For example, they have voices that say, "The cold war will end through our acceptance of a not undemocratic socialism." Another voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the 20th century." Senator Fullbright has said at Stanford University that the Constitution is outmoded. He referred to the President as "our moral teacher and our leader," and he says he is "hobbled in his task by the restrictions of power imposed on him by this antiquated document." He must "be freed," so that he "can do for us" what he knows "is best." And Senator Clark of Pennsylvania, another articulate spokesman, defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government."

Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government"—this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy.

Now, we have no better example of this than government's involvement in the farm economy over the last 30 years. Since 1955, the cost of this program has nearly doubled. One-fourth of farming in America is responsible for 85 percent of the farm surplus. Three-fourths of farming is out on the free market and has known a 21 percent increase in the per capita consumption of all its produce. You see, that one-fourth of farming—that's regulated and controlled by the federal government. In the last three years we've spent 43 dollars in the feed grain program for every dollar bushel of corn we don't grow.

Senator Humphrey last week charged that Barry Goldwater, as President, would seek to eliminate farmers. He should do his homework a little better, because he'll find out that we've had a decline of 5 million in the farm population under these government programs. He'll also find that the Democratic administration has sought to get from Congress [an] extension of the farm program to include that three-fourths that is now free. He'll find that they've also asked for the right to imprison farmers who wouldn't keep books as prescribed by the federal government. The Secretary of Agriculture asked for the right to seize farms through condemnation and resell them to other individuals. And contained in that same program was a provision that would have allowed the federal government to remove 2 million farmers from the soil.

At the same time, there's been an increase in the Department of Agriculture employees. There's now one for every 30 farms in the United States, and still they can't tell us how 66 shiploads of grain headed for Austria disappeared without a trace and Billie Sol Estes never left shore.

Every responsible farmer and farm organization has repeatedly asked the government to free the farm economy, but how—who are farmers to know what's best for them? The wheat farmers voted against a wheat program. The government passed it anyway. Now the price of bread goes up; the price of wheat to the farmer goes down.

Meanwhile, back in the city, under urban renewal the assault on freedom carries on. Private property rights [are] so diluted that public interest is almost anything a few government planners decide it should be. In a program that takes from the needy and gives to the greedy, we see such spectacles as in Cleveland, Ohio, a million-and-a-half-dollar building completed only three years ago must be destroyed to make way for what government officials call a "more compatible use of the land." The President tells us he's now going to start building public housing units in the thousands, where heretofore we've only built them in the hundreds. But FHA [Federal Housing Authority] and the Veterans Administration tell us they have 120,000 housing units they've taken back through mortgage foreclosure. For three decades, we've sought to solve the problems of unemployment through government planning, and the more the plans fail, the more the planners plan. The latest is the Area Redevelopment Agency.

They've just declared Rice County, Kansas, a depressed area. Rice County, Kansas, has two hundred oil wells, and the 14,000 people there have over 30 million dollars on deposit in personal savings in their banks. And when the government tells you you're depressed, lie down and be depressed.

We have so many people who can't see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one. So they're going to solve all the problems of human misery through government and government planning. Well, now, if government planning and welfare had the answer—and they've had almost 30 years of it—shouldn't we expect government to read the score to us once in a while? Shouldn't they be telling us about the decline each year in the number of people needing help? The reduction in the need for public housing?

But the reverse is true. Each year the need grows greater; the program grows greater. We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry each night. Well that was probably true. They were all on a diet. But now we're told that 9.3 million families in this country are poverty-stricken on the basis of earning less than 3,000 dollars a year. Welfare spending [is] 10 times greater than in the dark depths of the Depression. We're spending 45 billion dollars on welfare. Now do a little arithmetic, and you'll find that if we divided the 45 billion dollars up equally among those 9 million poor families, we'd be able to give each family 4,600 dollars a year. And this added to their present income should eliminate poverty. Direct aid to the poor, however, is only running only about 600 dollars per family. It would seem that someplace there must be some overhead.

Now—so now we declare "war on poverty," or "You, too, can be a Bobby Baker." Now do they honestly expect us to believe that if we add 1 billion dollars to the 45 billion we're spending, one more program to the 30-odd we have—and remember, this new program doesn't replace any, it just duplicates existing programs—do they believe that poverty is suddenly going to disappear by magic? Well, in all fairness I should explain there is one part of the new program that isn't duplicated. This is the youth feature. We're now going to solve the dropout problem, juvenile delinquency, by reinstituting something like the old CCC camps [Civilian Conservation Corps], and we're going to put our young people in these camps. But again we do some arithmetic, and we find that we're going to spend each year just on room and board for each young person we help 4,700 dollars a year. We can send them to Harvard for 2,700! Course, don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting Harvard is the answer to juvenile delinquency.

But seriously, what are we doing to those we seek to help? Not too long ago, a judge called me here in Los Angeles. He told me of a young woman who'd come before him for a divorce. She had six children, was pregnant with her seventh. Under his questioning, she revealed her husband was a laborer earning 250 dollars a month. She wanted a divorce to get an 80 dollar raise. She's eligible for 330 dollars a month in the Aid to Dependent Children Program. She got the idea from two women in her neighborhood who'd already done that very thing.

Yet anytime you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we're denounced as being against their humanitarian goals. They say we're always "against" things—we're never "for" anything.

Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.

Now—we're for a provision that destitution should not follow unemployment by reason of old age, and to that end we've accepted Social Security as a step toward meeting the problem.

But we're against those entrusted with this program when they practice deception regarding its fiscal shortcomings, when they charge that any criticism of the program means that we want to end payments to those people who depend on them for a livelihood. They've called it "insurance" to us in a hundred million pieces of literature. But then they appeared before the Supreme Court and they testified it was a welfare program. They only use the term "insurance" to sell it to the people. And they said Social Security dues are a tax for the general use of the government, and the government has used that tax. There is no fund, because Robert Byers, the actuarial head, appeared before a congressional committee and admitted that Social Security as of this moment is 298 billion dollars in the hole. But he said there should be no cause for worry because as long as they have the power to tax, they could always take away from the people whatever they needed to bail them out of trouble. And they're doing just that.

A young man, 21 years of age, working at an average salary—his Social Security contribution would, in the open market, buy him an insurance policy that would guarantee 220 dollars a month at age 65. The government promises 127. He could live it up until he's 31 and then take out a policy that would pay more than Social Security. Now are we so lacking in business sense that we can't put this program on a sound basis, so that people who do require those payments will find they can get them when they're due—that the cupboard isn't bare?

Barry Goldwater thinks we can.

At the same time, can't we introduce voluntary features that would permit a citizen who can do better on his own to be excused upon presentation of evidence that he had made provision for the non-earning years? Should we not allow a widow with children to work, and not lose the benefits supposedly paid for by her deceased husband? Shouldn't you and I be allowed to declare who our beneficiaries will be under this program, which we cannot do? I think we're for telling our senior citizens that no one in this country should be denied medical care because of a lack of funds. But I think we're against forcing all citizens, regardless of need, into a compulsory government program, especially when we have such examples, as was announced last week, when France admitted that their Medicare program is now bankrupt. They've come to the end of the road.

In addition, was Barry Goldwater so irresponsible when he suggested that our government give up its program of deliberate, planned inflation, so that when you do get your Social Security pension, a dollar will buy a dollar's worth, and not 45 cents worth?

I think we're for an international organization, where the nations of the world can seek peace. But I think we're against subordinating American interests to an organization that has become so structurally unsound that today you can muster a two-thirds vote on the floor of the General Assembly among nations that represent less than 10 percent of the world's population. I think we're against the hypocrisy of assailing our allies because here and there they cling to a colony, while we engage in a conspiracy of silence and never open our mouths about the millions of people enslaved in the Soviet colonies in the satellite nations.

I think we're for aiding our allies by sharing of our material blessings with those nations which share in our fundamental beliefs, but we're against doling out money government to government, creating bureaucracy, if not socialism, all over the world. We set out to help 19 countries. We're helping 107. We've spent 146 billion dollars. With that money, we bought a 2 million dollar yacht for Haile Selassie. We bought dress suits for Greek undertakers, extra wives for Kenya[n] government officials. We bought a thousand TV sets for a place where they have no electricity. In the last six years, 52 nations have bought 7 billion dollars worth of our gold, and all 52 are receiving foreign aid from this country.

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. So governments' programs, once launched, never disappear.

Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth.

Federal employees—federal employees number two and a half million; and federal, state, and local, one out of six of the nation's work force employed by government. These proliferating bureaus with their thousands of regulations have cost us many of our constitutional safeguards. How many of us realize that today federal agents can invade a man's property without a warrant? They can impose a fine without a formal hearing, let alone a trial by jury? And they can seize and sell his property at auction to enforce the payment of that fine. In Chico County, Arkansas, James Wier over-planted his rice allotment. The government obtained a 17,000 dollar judgment. And a U.S. marshal sold his 960-acre farm at auction. The government said it was necessary as a warning to others to make the system work.

Last February 19th at the University of Minnesota, Norman Thomas, six-times candidate for President on the Socialist Party ticket, said, "If Barry Goldwater became President, he would stop the advance of socialism in the United States." I think that's exactly what he will do.

But as a former Democrat, I can tell you Norman Thomas isn't the only man who has drawn this parallel to socialism with the present administration, because back in 1936, Mr. Democrat himself, Al Smith, the great American, came before the American people and charged that the leadership of his Party was taking the Party of Jefferson, Jackson, and Cleveland down the road under the banners of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin. And he walked away from his Party, and he never returned til the day he died—because to this day, the leadership of that Party has been taking that Party, that honorable Party, down the road in the image of the labor Socialist Party of England.

Now it doesn't require expropriation or confiscation of private property or business to impose socialism on a people. What does it mean whether you hold the deed to the—or the title to your business or property if the government holds the power of life and death over that business or property? And such machinery already exists. The government can find some charge to bring against any concern it chooses to prosecute. Every businessman has his own tale of harassment. Somewhere a perversion has taken place. Our natural, unalienable rights are now considered to be a dispensation of government, and freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp as it is at this moment.

Our Democratic opponents seem unwilling to debate these issues. They want to make you and I believe that this is a contest between two men—that we're to choose just between two personalities.

Well what of this man that they would destroy—and in destroying, they would destroy that which he represents, the ideas that you and I hold dear? Is he the brash and shallow and trigger-happy man they say he is? Well I've been privileged to know him "when." I knew him long before he ever dreamed of trying for high office, and I can tell you personally I've never known a man in my life I believed so incapable of doing a dishonest or dishonorable thing.

This is a man who, in his own business before he entered politics, instituted a profit-sharing plan before unions had ever thought of it. He put in health and medical insurance for all his employees. He took 50 percent of the profits before taxes and set up a retirement program, a pension plan for all his employees. He sent monthly checks for life to an employee who was ill and couldn't work. He provides nursing care for the children of mothers who work in the stores. When Mexico was ravaged by the floods in the Rio Grande, he climbed in his airplane and flew medicine and supplies down there.

An ex-GI told me how he met him. It was the week before Christmas during the Korean War, and he was at the Los Angeles airport trying to get a ride home to Arizona for Christmas. And he said that [there were] a lot of servicemen there and no seats available on the planes. And then a voice came over the loudspeaker and said, "Any men in uniform wanting a ride to Arizona, go to runway such-and-such," and they went down there, and there was a fellow named Barry Goldwater sitting in his plane. Every day in those weeks before Christmas, all day long, he'd load up the plane, fly it to Arizona, fly them to their homes, fly back over to get another load.

During the hectic split-second timing of a campaign, this is a man who took time out to sit beside an old friend who was dying of cancer. His campaign managers were understandably impatient, but he said, "There aren't many left who care what happens to her. I'd like her to know I care." This is a man who said to his 19-year-old son, "There is no foundation like the rock of honesty and fairness, and when you begin to build your life on that rock, with the cement of the faith in God that you have, then you have a real start." This is not a man who could carelessly send other people's sons to war. And that is the issue of this campaign that makes all the other problems I've discussed academic, unless we realize we're in a war that must be won.

Those who would trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state have told us they have a utopian solution of peace without victory. They call their policy "accommodation." And they say if we'll only avoid any direct confrontation with the enemy, he'll forget his evil ways and learn to love us. All who oppose them are indicted as warmongers. They say we offer simple answers to complex problems. Well, perhaps there is a simple answer—not an easy answer—but simple: If you and I have the courage to tell our elected officials that we want our national policy based on what we know in our hearts is morally right.

We cannot buy our security, our freedom from the threat of the bomb by committing an immorality so great as saying to a billion human beings now enslaved behind the Iron Curtain, "Give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skins, we're willing to make a deal with your slave masters." Alexander Hamilton said, "A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one." Now let's set the record straight. There's no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there's only one guaranteed way you can have peace—and you can have it in the next second—surrender.

Admittedly, there's a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face—that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand—the ultimatum. And what then—when Nikita Khrushchev has told his people he knows what our answer will be? He has told them that we're retreating under the pressure of the Cold War, and someday when the time comes to deliver the final ultimatum, our surrender will be voluntary, because by that time we will have been weakened from within spiritually, morally, and economically. He believes this because from our side he's heard voices pleading for "peace at any price" or "better Red than dead," or as one commentator put it, he'd rather "live on his knees than die on his feet." And therein lies the road to war, because those voices don't speak for the rest of us.

You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin—just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard 'round the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn't die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? Well it's a simple answer after all.

You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, "There is a price we will not pay." "There is a point beyond which they must not advance." And this—this is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater's "peace through strength." Winston Churchill said, "The destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we're spirits—not animals." And he said, "There's something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty."

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.

We'll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we'll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.

We will keep in mind and remember that Barry Goldwater has faith in us. He has faith that you and I have the ability and the dignity and the right to make our own decisions and determine our own destiny.

Thank you very much.

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

Text of Obama in Portsmouth, NH Aug 11, 2009

Full text of Obama's Town Hall meeting provide by the White House. The full video (1hr, 19 mins) is linked to C-Span.



Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release August 11, 2009


Portsmouth High School
Portsmouth, New Hampshire

1:05 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Hello, Portsmouth! Thank you. (Applause.) Thank you so much. Everybody have a seat. Oh, thank you so --


THE PRESIDENT: I love you back. Thank you. (Laughter.) It is great to be back in Portsmouth. (Applause.) It's great to be back in New Hampshire. I have to say, though, that most of my memories of this state are cold. (Laughter.) So it's good to be here in August.

There are a couple of people that I want to acknowledge who are here today, some special guests. First of all, I want to thank principal Jeffrey Collins, and the Portsmouth students and faculty and staff. (Applause.) Thank you -- our host for today. Your own outstanding governor, John Lynch is here. (Applause.) And his wonderful wife, Dr. Susan Lynch is here, the First Lady of New Hampshire. (Applause.) Your United States senator, doing a great job, Jeanne Shaheen is here. (Applause.) The governor of the great state of Maine, and we are glad he's here in New Hampshire today, John Baldacci is here. (Applause.)

Two of my favorite people, they are just taking Congress by storm, outstanding work -- Paul Hodes, Carol Shea-Porter -- give them a big round of applause. (Applause.) And we've got your own mayor, Tom Ferrini is here. Where's Tom? There he is. (Applause.)

Now, I want to thank more than anybody, Lori, for that introduction, and for sharing her story with the rest of us. (Applause.) Thank you, Lori. Lori's story is the same kind of story that I've read in letters, that I've heard in town hall meetings just like this one for the past five years. In fact, some of you were in that town hall -- those town hall meetings, as I was traveling all throughout New Hampshire. It's the story of hardworking Americans who are held hostage by health insurance companies that deny them coverage, or drop their coverage, or charge fees that they can't afford for care that they desperately need.

I believe it is wrong. It is bankrupting families and businesses, and that's why we are going to pass health insurance reform in 2009. (Applause.)

Now, this is obviously a tough time for families here in New Hampshire and all across America. Six months ago, we were in the middle of the worst recession of our lifetimes. I want you to remember what things were like in January and February. We were losing about 700,000 jobs per month. And economists of all stripes feared a second-coming of the Great Depression. That was only six months ago.

That's why we acted as fast as we could to pass a Recovery Act that would stop the freefall. And I want to make sure everybody understands what we did. One-third of the money in the Recovery Act went to tax cuts that have already started showing up in the paychecks of about 500,000 working families in New Hampshire -- (applause) -- 500,000 families in New Hampshire. We also cut taxes for small businesses on the investments that they make, and over 300 New Hampshire small businesses have qualified for new loans backed by the Recovery Act.

Now, that was a third -- that was a third of the Recovery Act. Another third of the money in the Recovery Act is for emergency relief for folks who've borne the brunt of this recession. So we've extended unemployment benefits for 20,000 New Hampshire residents. (Applause.) We've made health insurance 65 percent cheaper for families who rely on COBRA while they're looking for work. (Applause.) And for states that were facing historic budget shortfalls, we provided assistance that has saved the jobs of tens of thousands of workers who provided essential services -- like teachers and police officers. (Applause.) So it's prevented a lot of painful cuts in the state, but also a lot of painful state and local tax increases.

Now, the last third of the Recovery Act is for investments that are already putting people back to work. These are jobs refurbishing bridges and pavement on I-95; or jobs at the community health centers here in Portsmouth that will be able to add nurses, and extend hours, and serve up to 500 new patients. These are good jobs doing the work America needs done. And, by the way, most of the work is being done by private, local businesses, because that's how we're going to grow this economy again.

So there is no doubt that the Recovery Act has helped put the brakes on this recession. We just saw last Friday the job picture is beginning to turn. We're starting to see signs that business investment is coming back.

But, New Hampshire, that doesn't mean we're out of the woods, and you know that. It doesn't mean we can just sit back and do nothing while so many families are still struggling, because even before this recession hit we had an economy that was working pretty well for the wealthiest Americans, it was working pretty well for Wall Street bankers, it was working pretty well for big corporations, but it wasn't working so well for everybody else. It was an economy of bubbles and busts. And we can't go back to that kind of economy.

If we want this country to succeed in the 21st century -- and if we want our children to succeed in the 21st century -- then we're going to have to take the steps necessary to lay a new foundation for economic growth. We need to build an economy that works for everybody, and not just some people. (Applause.)

Now, health insurance reform is one of those pillars that we need to build up that new foundation. I don't have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don't have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage. They are just vulnerable. If something happens, they go bankrupt, or they don't get the care they need.

But it's just as important that we accomplish health insurance reform for the Americans who do have health insurance -- (applause) -- because right now we have a health care system that too often works better for the insurance industry than it does for the American people. And we've got to change that. (Applause.)

Now, let me just start by setting the record straight on a few things I've been hearing out here -- (laughter) -- about reform. Under the reform we're proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.

You will not be waiting in any lines. This is not about putting the government in charge of your health insurance. I don't believe anyone should be in charge of your health insurance decisions but you and your doctor. (Applause.) I don't think government bureaucrats should be meddling, but I also don't think insurance company bureaucrats should be meddling. That's the health care system I believe in. (Applause.)

Now, we just heard from Lori about how she can't find an insurance company that will cover her because of her medical condition. She's not alone. A recent report actually shows that in the past three years, over 12 million Americans were discriminated against by insurance companies because of a preexisting condition. Either the insurance company refused to cover the person, or they dropped their coverage when they got sick and they needed it most, or they refused to cover a specific illness or condition, or they charged higher premiums and out-of-pocket costs. No one holds these companies accountable for these practices.

And I have to say, this is personal for Lori but it's also personal for me. I talked about this when I was campaigning up here in New Hampshire. I will never forget my own mother, as she fought cancer in her final months, having to worry about whether her insurance would refuse to pay for her treatment. And by the way, this was because the insurance company was arguing that somehow she should have known that she had cancer when she took her new job -- even though it hadn't been diagnosed yet. So if it could happen to her, it could happen to any one of us.

And I've heard from so many Americans who have the same worries. One woman testified that an insurance company would not cover her internal organs because of an accident she had when she was five years old. Think about that -- that covers a lot of stuff. (Laughter.) They're only going to cover your skin. (Laughter.) Dermatology, that's covered; nothing else. (Laughter.)

Another lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because the insurance company discovered he had gall stones that he hadn't known about when he applied for insurance. Now, that is wrong, and that will change when we pass health care reform. That is going to be a priority. (Applause.)

Under the reform we're proposing, insurance companies will be prohibited from denying coverage because of a person's medical history. Period. (Applause.) They will not be able to drop your coverage if you get sick. (Applause.) They will not be able to water down your coverage when you need it. (Applause.) Your health insurance should be there for you when it counts -- not just when you're paying premiums, but when you actually get sick. And it will be when we pass this plan. (Applause.)

Now, when we pass health insurance reform, insurance companies will no longer be able to place some arbitrary cap on the amount of coverage you can receive in a given year or a lifetime. And we will place a limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses, because no one in America should go broke because they get sick. (Applause.)

And finally -- this is important -- we will require insurance companies to cover routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopies -- (applause) -- because there's no reason we shouldn't be catching diseases like breast cancer and prostate cancer on the front end. That makes sense, it saves lives; it also saves money -- and we need to save money in this health care system.

So this is what reform is about. For all the chatter and the yelling and the shouting and the noise, what you need to know is this: If you don't have health insurance, you will finally have quality, affordable options once we pass reform. (Applause.) If you do have health insurance, we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care that you need. And we will do this without adding to our deficit over the next decade, largely by cutting out the waste and insurance company giveaways in Medicare that aren't making any of our seniors healthier. (Applause.) Right. (Laughter.)

Now, before I start taking questions, let me just say there's been a long and vigorous debate about this, and that's how it should be. That's what America is about, is we have a vigorous debate. That's why we have a democracy. But I do hope that we will talk with each other and not over each other -- (applause) -- because one of the objectives of democracy and debate is, is that we start refining our own views because maybe other people have different perspectives, things we didn't think of.

Where we do disagree, let's disagree over things that are real, not these wild misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to anything that's actually been proposed. (Applause.) Because the way politics works sometimes is that people who want to keep things the way they are will try to scare the heck out of folks and they'll create boogeymen out there that just aren't real. (Applause.)

So this is an important and complicated issue that deserves serious debate. And we have months to go before we're done, and years after that to phase in all these reforms and get them right. And I know this: Despite all the hand-wringing pundits and the best efforts of those who are profiting from the status quo, we are closer to achieving health insurance reform than we have ever been. We have the American Nurses Association supporting us. (Applause.) We have the American Medical Association on board. (Applause.)

America's doctors and nurses know firsthand how badly we need reform. We have broad agreement in Congress on about 80 percent of what we're trying to do. We have an agreement from the drug companies to make prescription drugs more affordable for seniors. We can cut the doughnut hole in half if we pass reform. (Applause.) We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors. (Applause.)

But let's face it, now is the hard part -- because the history is clear -- every time we come close to passing health insurance reform, the special interests fight back with everything they've got. They use their influence. They use their political allies to scare and mislead the American people. They start running ads. This is what they always do.

We can't let them do it again. Not this time. Not now. (Applause.) Because for all the scare tactics out there, what is truly scary -- what is truly risky -- is if we do nothing. If we let this moment pass -- if we keep the system the way it is right now -- we will continue to see 14,000 Americans lose their health insurance every day. Your premiums will continue to skyrocket. They have gone up three times faster than your wages and they will keep on going up.

Our deficit will continue to grow because Medicare and Medicaid are on an unsustainable path. Medicare is slated to go into the red in about eight to 10 years. I don't know if people are aware of that. If I was a senior citizen, the thing I'd be worried about right now is Medicare starts running out of money because we haven't done anything to make sure that we're getting a good bang for our buck when it comes to health care. And insurance companies will continue to profit by discriminating against people for the simple crime of being sick. Now, that's not a future I want for my children. It's not a future that I want for the United States of America.

New Hampshire, I was up here campaigning a long time. (Laughter.) A lot of you guys came to my town hall events. Some of you voted for me, some of you didn't. But here's one thing I've got to say: I never said this was going to be easy. I never said change would be easy. If it were easy, it would have already been done. Change is hard. And it doesn't start in Washington. It begins in places like Portsmouth, with people like Lori, who have the courage to share their stories and fight for something better. (Applause.)

That's what we need to do right now. And I need your help. If you want a health care system that works for the American people -- (applause) -- as well as it works for the insurance companies, I need your help -- knocking on doors, talking to your neighbors. Spread the facts. Let's get this done. (Applause.)

Thank you. Thank you. (Applause.)

AUDIENCE: Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can!

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. I remember that.

Everybody have a seat. All right, this is the fun part. (Laughter.) Now, first of all, by the way, let's thank the band -- I didn't see the band over here. Thank you, band. (Applause.) Great job.

All right, here's how we're going to do this. We do a lot of town hall meetings in New Hampshire, so everybody knows the basic outlines of this thing. If you have a question just raise your hand. There are people with microphones in the audience. I am going to try to go girl-boy-girl-boy, to make sure it's fair. (Laughter.) If I hear only from people who agree with me I'm going to actively ask some folks who are concerned about health care, give them a chance to ask their questions, because I think we've got to make sure that we get out -- surface some of the debates and concerns that people have. Some of them are legitimate. I'm going to try to get through as many questions as I can. But if you can keep your question or comment relatively brief, then I will try to keep my answers relatively brief, okay? (Laughter.)

All right, so we're just going to go around the room and I'm going to start with this gentleman right here, this gentleman right here. Please introduce yourself, if you don't mind.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Welcome to Portsmouth and New Hampshire. My name is Peter Schmidt. I'm a state representative from Dover. I'm a senior citizen. I have a wonderful government-run health care plan called Medicare. I like it. It's affordable, it's reasonable, nobody tells me what I need to do. I just go to my doctor at the hospital, I get care.

Now, one of the things you've been doing in your campaign to change the situation is you've been striving for bipartisanship. I think it's a wonderful idea, but my question is, if the Republicans actively refuse to participate in a reasonable way with reasonable proposals, isn't it time to just say we're going to pass what the American people need and what they want, without the Republicans? (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Well, let me make a couple of points. First of all, you make a point about Medicare that's very important. I've been getting a lot of letters, pro and con, for health care reform, and one of the letters I received recently, a woman was very exercised about what she had heard about my plan. She says, "I don't want government-run health care. I don't want you meddling in the private marketplace. And keep your hands off my Medicare." (Laughter.) True story.

And so I do think it's important for particularly seniors who currently receive Medicare to understand that if we're able to get something right like Medicare, then there should be a little more confidence that maybe the government can have a role -- not the dominant role, but a role -- in making sure the people are treated fairly when it comes to insurance. (Applause.)

Under our proposal, the majority of Americans will still be getting their health care from private insurers. All we want to do is just make sure that private insurers are treating you fairly so that you are not buying something where if you failed to read the fine print, next thing you know, when you actually get sick, you have no coverage.

We also want to make sure that everybody has some options. So there's been talk about this public option. This is where a lot of the idea of government takeover of health care comes from. All we want to do is set up a set of options so that if you don't have health insurance or you're underinsured you can have the same deal that members of Congress have, which is they can look at a menu of options -- we're calling it an exchange, but it’s basically just a menu of different health care plans -- and you will be able to select the one that suits your family best.

And I do think that having a public option as part of that would keep the insurance companies honest, because if they've got a public plan out there that they've got to compete against, as long as it's not being subsidized by taxpayers, then that will give you some sense of what -- sort of a good bargain for what basic health care would be. (Applause.)

Now, I think that there are some of my Republican friends on Capitol Hill who are sincerely trying to figure out if they can find a health care bill that works -- Chuck Grassley of Iowa, Mike Enzi of Wyoming, Olympia Snowe from Maine have been -- (applause) -- yes, I got to admit I like Olympia, too. (Laughter.) They are diligently working to see if they can come up with a plan that could get both Republican and Democratic support.

But I have to tell you, when I listen to folks like Lori and families all across America who are just getting pounded by the current health care system, and when I look at the federal budget and realize that if we don't control costs on health care, there is no way for us to close the budget deficit -- it will just keep on skyrocketing -- when I look at those two things, I say we have to get it done. And my hope is we can do it in a bipartisan fashion, but the most important thing is getting it done for the American people. (Applause.)

All right. Let's -- this young lady right here. All right, this young lady right here. She's still enjoying her summer. When do you go back to school?

Q I go back to school September 3rd.

THE PRESIDENT: September 3rd, okay. What's your name?

Q Julia Hall from Malden, Massachusetts.

THE PRESIDENT: Nice to meet you, Julia. (Applause.)

Q I saw -- as I was walking in, I saw a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reforming health care. How do kids know what is true, and why do people want a new system that can -- that help more of us?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, the -- I've seen some of those signs. (Laughter.) Let me just be specific about some things that I've been hearing lately that we just need to dispose of here. The rumor that's been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the House of Representatives voted for "death panels" that will basically pull the plug on grandma because we've decided that we don't -- it's too expensive to let her live anymore. (Laughter.) And there are various -- there are some variations on this theme.

It turns out that I guess this arose out of a provision in one of the House bills that allowed Medicare to reimburse people for consultations about end-of-life care, setting up living wills, the availability of hospice, et cetera. So the intention of the members of Congress was to give people more information so that they could handle issues of end-of-life care when they're ready, on their own terms. It wasn't forcing anybody to do anything. This is I guess where the rumor came from.

The irony is that actually one of the chief sponsors of this bill originally was a Republican -- then House member, now senator, named Johnny Isakson from Georgia -- who very sensibly thought this is something that would expand people's options. And somehow it's gotten spun into this idea of "death panels." I am not in favor of that. So just I want to -- (applause.) I want to clear the air here.

Now, in fairness, the underlying argument I think has to be addressed, and that is people's concern that if we are reforming the health care system to make it more efficient, which I think we have to do, the concern is that somehow that will mean rationing of care, right? -- that somehow some government bureaucrat out there will be saying, well, you can't have this test or you can't have this procedure because some bean-counter decides that this is not a good way to use our health care dollars. And this is a legitimate concern, so I just want to address this.

We do think that systems like Medicare are very inefficient right now, but it has nothing to do at the moment with issues of benefits. The inefficiencies all come from things like paying $177 billion to insurance companies in subsidies for something called Medicare Advantage that is not competitively bid, so insurance companies basically get a $177 billion of taxpayer money to provide services that Medicare already provides. And it's no better -- it doesn't result in better health care for seniors. It is a giveaway of $177 billion.

Now, think about what we could do with $177 billion over 10 years. I don't think that's a good use of money. I would rather spend that money on making sure that Lori can have coverage, making sure that people who don't have health insurance get some subsidies, than I would want to be subsidizing insurance companies. (Applause.)

Another way of putting this is right now insurance companies are rationing care. They are basically telling you what's covered and what's not. They're telling you: We'll cover this drug, but we won't cover that drug; you can have this procedure, or, you can't have that procedure. So why is it that people would prefer having insurance companies make those decisions, rather than medical experts and doctors figuring out what are good deals for care and providing that information to you as a consumer and your doctor so you can make the decisions?

So I just want to be very clear about this. I recognize there is an underlying fear here that people somehow won't get the care they need. You will have not only the care you need, but also the care that right now is being denied to you -- only if we get health care reform. That's what we're fighting for. (Applause.)

All right. Gentleman back here, with the baseball cap. Right there.

Q Good afternoon, Mr. President. Bill Anderson from New Hampshire. In reference to what you just said -- I'm presently under the New Hampshire Medicaid system and I have to take a drug called Lipitor. When I got onto this program they said, no, we're not going to cover Lipitor -- even though I'd been on that pill for probably 10 years, based on the information my doctor feels is right for me. And I had to go through two different trials of other kinds of drugs before it was finally deemed that I was able to go back on the Lipitor through the New Hampshire Medicaid system. So here it is, the Medicaid that you guys are administering and you're telling me that it's good -- but in essence, I'm dealing with the same thing, and you're telling me the insurance companies are doing. Thank you.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that's a legitimate point. I don't know all the details, but it sounds to me like they were probably trying to have you take a generic as opposed to a brand name. Is that right? And it turned out that you did not have as good of a reaction under the generic as the brand name, and then they put you back on the brand name. Is that what happened?

Q Correct, to save money.

THE PRESIDENT: Well -- right. Look, there may be -- in nine out of 10 cases, the generic might work as well or better than the brand name. And we don't want to just subsidize the drug companies if you've got one that works just as well as another.

The important thing about the story that you just told me was -- is that once it was determined that, in fact, you needed the brand name, you were able to get the brand name. Now, I want to be absolutely clear here: There are going to be instances where if there is really strong scientific evidence that the generic and the brand name work just as well, and the brand name costs twice as much, that the taxpayer should try to get the best deal possible, as long as if it turns out that the generic doesn't work as well, you're able to get the brand name.

So the basic principle that we want to set up here is that -- if you're in private insurance, first of all, your private insurance can do whatever you want. If you're under a government program, then it makes sense for us to make sure that we're getting the best deal possible and not just giving drug makers or insurers more money than they should be getting. But ultimately, you've got to be able to get the best care based on what the doctor says.

And it sounds like that is eventually what happened. It may be that it wasn't as efficient -- it wasn't as smooth as it should have been, but that result is actually a good one. And you think about all the situations where a generic actually would have worked -- in fact, one of the things I want to do is to speed up generics getting introduced to the marketplace, because right now drug companies -- (applause) -- right now drug companies are fighting so that they can keep essentially their patents on their brand-name drugs a lot longer. And if we can make those patents a little bit shorter, generics get on the market sooner, ultimately you as consumers will save money. All right? But it was an excellent question, so thank you.

All right, it's a young woman's turn -- or a lady's turn. Right here. Yes, you.

Q Good afternoon, Mr. President. I'm Jackie Millet (phonetic) and I'm from Wells, Maine, and my question is, I am presently on Medicare and I do have a supplement. But if something happens to my husband, I lose the supplement. And what will happen? I take a lot of medications. I need a lot -- I've had a lot of procedures. And how will Medicare under the new proposal help people who are going to need things like this?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, another myth that we've been hearing about is this notion that somehow we're going to be cutting your Medicare benefits. We are not. AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare, okay? So I just want seniors to be clear about this, because if you look at the polling, it turns out seniors are the ones who are most worried about health care reform. And that's understandable, because they use a lot of care, they've got Medicare, and it's already hard for a lot of people even on Medicare because of the supplements and all the other costs out of pocket that they're still paying.

So I just want to assure we're not talking about cutting Medicare benefits. We are talking about making Medicare more efficient, eliminating the insurance subsidies, working with hospitals so that they are changing some of the reimbursement practices.

Right now hospitals, they are not penalized if there are constant readmission rates from patients that have gone through the hospital. If you go to a -- if you go to a car company or a auto shop, if you say, "Can I have my car repaired?", you get your car repaired -- if two weeks later it's broken down again, if you take it back, hopefully they're not going to charge you again for repairing the car. You want them to do it right the first time. And too often we're not seeing the best practices in some of these hospitals to prevent people from being readmitted. That costs a lot of money. So those are the kinds of changes we're talking about.

Now, in terms of savings for you as a Medicare recipient, the biggest one is on prescription drugs, because the prescription drug companies have already said that they would be willing to put up $80 billion in rebates for prescription drugs as part of a health care reform package.

Now, we may be able to get even more than that. But think about it. When the prescription drug plan was passed, Medicare Part D, they decided they weren't going to negotiate with the drug companies for the cheapest available price on drugs. And as a consequence, seniors are way over-paying -- there's that big doughnut hole that forces them to go out of pocket. You say you take a lot of medications; that means that doughnut hole is always something that's looming out there for you. If we can cut that doughnut hole in half, that's money directly out of your pocket. And that's one of the reasons that AARP is so supportive, because they see this as a way of potentially saving seniors a lot of money on prescription drugs. Okay?

All right. The gentleman right here in the white shirt.

Q Good afternoon, Mr. President. My name is Ben Hershinson (ph). I'm from Ogunquit, Maine, and also Florida. And I'm a Republican -- I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm here. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: We're happy to have you. We're happy to have you. (Applause.)

Q Mr. President, you've been quoted over the years -- when you were a senator and perhaps even before then -- that you were essentially a supporter of a universal plan. I'm beginning to see that you're changing that. Do you honestly believe that? Because that is my concern. I'm on Medicare, but I still worry that if we go to a public option, period, that the private companies, the insurance companies, rather than competing -- because who can compete with the government; the answer is nobody. So my question is do you still -- as yourself, now -- support a universal plan? Or are you open to the private industry still being maintained?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think it's an excellent question, so I appreciate the chance to respond. First of all, I want to make a distinction between a universal plan versus a single-payer plan, because those are two different things.

A single-payer plan would be a plan like Medicare for all, or the kind of plan that they have in Canada, where basically government is the only person -- is the only entity that pays for all health care. Everybody has a government-paid-for plan, even though in, depending on which country, the doctors are still private or the hospitals might still be private. In some countries, the doctors work for the government and the hospitals are owned by the government. But the point is, is that government pays for everything, like Medicare for all. That is a single-payer plan.

I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter because, frankly, we historically have had a employer-based system in this country with private insurers, and for us to transition to a system like that I believe would be too disruptive. So what would end up happening would be, a lot of people who currently have employer-based health care would suddenly find themselves dropped, and they would have to go into an entirely new system that had not been fully set up yet. And I would be concerned about the potential destructiveness of that kind of transition. All right? So I'm not promoting a single-payer plan.

I am promoting a plan that will assure that every single person is able to get health insurance at an affordable price, and that if they have health insurance they are getting a good deal from the insurance companies. That's what I'm fighting for. (Applause.)

Now, the way we have approached it, is that if you've got health care under a private plan, if your employer provides you health care or you buy your own health care and you're happy with it, you won't have to change.

What we're saying is, if you don't have health care, then you will be able to go to an exchange similar to the menu of options that I used to have as a member of Congress, and I can look and see what are these various private health care plans offering, what's a good deal, and I'll be able to buy insurance from that exchange. And because it's a big pool, I'll be able to drive down costs, I'll get a better deal than if I was trying to get health insurance on my own.

This is true, by the way, for small businesses, as well. A lot of small businesses, they end up paying a lot more than large businesses per person for health care, because they've got no bargaining power, they've got no leverage. So we wanted small businesses to be able to buy into this big pool, okay?

Now, the only thing that I have said is that having a public option in that menu would provide competition for insurance companies to keep them honest.

Now, I recognize, though, you make a legitimate -- you raise a legitimate concern. People say, well, how can a private company compete against the government? And my answer is that if the private insurance companies are providing a good bargain, and if the public option has to be self-sustaining -- meaning taxpayers aren't subsidizing it, but it has to run on charging premiums and providing good services and a good network of doctors, just like any other private insurer would do -- then I think private insurers should be able to compete. They do it all the time. (Applause.)

I mean, if you think about -- if you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? No, they are. It's the Post Office that's always having problems. (Laughter.)

So right now you've got private insurers who are out there competing effectively, even though a lot of people get their care through Medicare or Medicaid or VA. So there's nothing inevitable about this somehow destroying the private marketplace, as long as -- and this is a legitimate point that you're raising -- that it's not set up where the government is basically being subsidized by the taxpayers, so that even if they're not providing a good deal, we keep on having to pony out more and more money. And I've already said that can't be the way the public option is set up. It has to be self-sustaining.

Does that answer your question? Okay, thank you. (Applause.)

All right, right there. Go ahead.

Q Hello, Mr. President. My name is Linda Becher (ph). I'm from Portsmouth and I have proudly taught at this high school for 37 years.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, congratulations.

Q Thank you. (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: What do you teach?

Q I teach English and Journalism.


Q Yes, thank you.


Q And in those 37 years, I've been lucky enough to have very good health care coverage and my concerns currently are for those who do not. And I guess my question is if every American who needed it has access to good mental health care, what do you think the impact would be on our society?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you raise the -- (applause) -- you know, mental health has always been undervalued in the health insurance market. And what we now know is, is that somebody who has severe depression has a more debilitating and dangerous illness than somebody who's got a broken leg. But a broken leg, nobody argues that's covered. Severe depression, unfortunately, oftentimes isn't even under existing insurance policies.

So I think -- I've been a strong believer in mental health parity, recognizing that those are serious illnesses. (Applause.) And I would like to see a mental health component as part of a package that people are covered under, under our plan. Okay? (Applause.)

All right. This gentleman right here.

Q Hello, Mr. President. I'm Justin Higgins from Stratham, New Hampshire.

THE PRESIDENT: How are you, Justin?

Q Fine, thank you. There's a lot of misinformation about how we're going to pay for this health care plan. And I'm wondering how we're going to do this without raising the taxes on the middle class, because I don't want the burden to fall on my parents, and also I'm a college student so --

THE PRESIDENT: They've already got enough problems paying your college tuition. (Laughter.)

Q Exactly. Exactly.

THE PRESIDENT: I hear you.

Q Also I'm looking towards my future with career options and opportunities and I don't want inflation to skyrocket by just adding this to the national debt. So I'm wondering how we can avoid both of those scenarios. (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Right, it's a great question. First of all, I said I won't sign a bill that adds to the deficit or the national debt. Okay? So this will have to be paid for. That, by the way, is in contrast to the prescription drug bill that was passed that cost hundreds of billions of dollars, by the previous administration and previous Congress, that was not paid for at all, and that was a major contributor to our current national debt.

That's why you will forgive me if sometimes I chuckle a little bit when I hear all these folks saying, "oh, big-spending Obama" -- when I'm proposing something that will be paid for and they signed into law something that wasn't, and they had no problem with it. Same people, same folks. And they say with a straight face how we've got to be fiscally responsible. (Applause.)

Now, having said that, paying for it is not simple. I don't want to pretend that it is. By definition, if we're helping people who currently don't have health insurance, that's going to cost some money. It's been estimated to cost somewhere between, let's say, $800 billion and a trillion dollars over 10 years. Now, it's important that we're talking about over 10 years because sometimes the number "trillion" gets thrown out there and everybody think it's a trillion dollars a year -- gosh, that -- how are we going to do that? So it's about a hundred billion dollars a year to cover everybody and to implement some of the insurance reforms that we're talking about.

About two-thirds of those costs we can cover by eliminating the inefficiencies that I already mentioned. So I already talked about $177 billion worth of subsidies to the insurance companies. Let's take that money, let's put it in the kitty. There's about $500 billion to $600 billion over 10 years that can be saved without cutting benefits for people who are currently receiving Medicare, actually making the system more efficient over time.

That does still leave, though, anywhere from $300 billion to $400 billion over 10 years, or $30 billion to $40 billion a year. That does have to be paid for, and we will need new sources of revenue to pay for it. And I've made a proposal that would -- I want to just be very clear -- the proposal, my preferred approach to this would have been to take people like myself who make more than $250,000 a year, and limit the itemized deductions that we can take to the same level as middle-class folks can take them. (Applause.)

Right now, the average person -- the average middle-class family, they're in the 28-percent tax bracket, and so they basically can itemize, take a deduction that is about 28 percent. I can take -- since I'm in a much higher tax bracket, I can take a much bigger deduction. And so as a consequence, if I give a charitable gift, I get a bigger break from Uncle Sam than you do.

So what I've said is let's just even it out. That would actually raise sufficient money. Now, that was my preferred way of paying for it. Members of Congress have had different ideas. And we are still exploring these ideas.

By the time that we actually have a bill that is set, that is reconciled between House and Senate and is voted on, it will be very clear what those ideas are. My belief is, is that it should not burden people who make $250,000 a year or less.

And I think that's the commitment that I made, the pledge that I made when I was up here running in New Hampshire, folks. So I don't want anybody saying somehow that I'm pulling the bait- and-switch here. I said very specifically I thought we should roll back Bush tax cuts and use them to pay for health insurance. That's what I'm intending to do. All right? (Applause.)

Okay, I've only got time for a couple more questions. Somebody here who has a concern about health care that has not been raised, or is skeptical and suspicious and wants to make sure that -- because I don't want people thinking I just have a bunch of plants in here. All right, so I've got one right here -- and then I'll ask the guy with two hands up because he must really have a burning question. (Laughter.)

All right, go ahead.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. I've worked in the medical field for about 18 years and seen a lot of changes over those 18 years. I currently work here at the high school as a paraprofessional. I have a little, you know, couple questions about the universal insurance program, which, if I understand you correctly, President Obama, you seek to cover 50 million new people over and above the amount of people that are currently getting health care at this moment.

THE PRESIDENT: It will probably -- I just want to be honest here. There are about 46 million people who are uninsured. And under the proposals that we have, even if you have an individual mandate, probably only about 37-38 million, so somewhere in that ballpark.

Q Okay, I'm off a little bit. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: No, no, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't over-selling my plan here.

Q That's okay, Mr. President. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: She's okay --

Q He winked at me. (Laughter.) My concern is for where are we going to get the doctors and nurses to cover these? Right now I know that there's a really -- people are not going to school to become teachers to teach the nursing staffs. Doctors have huge capacities; some of them are leaving private to go to administrative positions because of the caseload that they're being made to hold. I really do feel that there will be more demand with this universal health care and no added supply. I also understand that it was to be taken from Medicare, about $500 billion -- correct me if I'm wrong on that.

THE PRESIDENT: I just said that.

Q Okay. Also, you know, I'm very, very concerned about the elderly. I don't know if this is also correct, but I understand that a federal health board will sit in judgment of medical procedures and protocols to impose guidelines on all providers -- when to withhold certain types of care -- like, what is the point you get to when we say, I'm sorry that this cannot happen. Thank you very much for letting me ask those questions, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Of course. Well, first of all, I already mentioned that we would be taking savings out of Medicare that are currently going to insurance subsidies, for example. So that is absolutely true.

I just want to be clear, again: Seniors who are listening here, this does not affect your benefits. This is not money going to you to pay for your benefits; this is money that is subsidizing folks who don't need it. So that's point number one.

Point number two: In terms of these expert health panels -- well, this goes to the point about "death panels" -- that's what folks are calling them. The idea is actually pretty straightforward, which is if we've got a panel of experts, health experts, doctors, who can provide guidelines to doctors and patients about what procedures work best in what situations, and find ways to reduce, for example, the number of tests that people take -- these aren't going to be forced on people, but they will help guide how the delivery system works so that you are getting higher-quality care. And it turns out that oftentimes higher-quality care actually costs less.

So let me just take the example of testing. Right now, a lot of Medicare patients -- you have something wrong with you, you go to your doctor, doctor checks up on you, maybe he takes -- has a test, he administers a test. You go back home, you get the results, the doctor calls you and says, okay, now you got to go to this specialist. Then you have to take another trip to the specialist. The specialist doesn't have the first test, so he does his own test. Then maybe you've got to, when you go to the hospital, you've got to take a third test.

Now, each time taxpayers, under Medicare, are paying for that test. So for a panel of experts to say, why don't we have all the specialists and the doctors communicating after the first test and let's have electronic medical records so that we can forward the results of that first test to the others -- (applause) -- that's a sensible thing to do. That is a sensible thing to do.

So we want -- if I'm a customer, if I'm a consumer and I know that I'm overpaying $6,000 for anything else, I would immediately want the best deal. But for some reason, in health care, we continue to put up with getting a bad deal. We’re paying $6,000 more than any other advanced country and we're not healthier for it -- $6,000 per person more, per year. That doesn’t make any sense. So there's got to be a lot of waste in the system. And the idea is to have doctors, nurses, medical experts look for it.

Now, the last question that you asked is very important and I don't have a simple solution to this. If you look at the makeup of the medical profession right now, we have constant nurses shortages and we have severe shortages of primary care physicians. Primary care physicians, ideally family physicians, they should be the front lines of the medical profession in encouraging prevention and wellness. (Applause.) But the problem is, is that primary care physicians, they make a lot less money than specialists --

AUDIENCE MEMBER: And nurse practitioners.

THE PRESIDENT: And nurse practitioners, too. (Applause.) And nurses, you've got a whole other issue which you already raised, which is the fact that not only are nurses not paid as well as they should, but you also have -- nursing professors are paid even worse than nurses. So as a consequence, you don't have enough professors to teach nursing, which means that's part of the reason why you've got such a shortage of nurses.

So we are going to be taking steps, as part of reform, to deal with expanding primary care physicians and our nursing corps. On the doctors' front, one of the things we can do is to reimburse doctors who are providing preventive care and not just the surgeon who provides care after somebody is sick. (Applause.) Nothing against surgeons. I want surgeons -- I don't want to be getting a bunch of letters from surgeons now. I'm not dissing surgeons here. (Laughter.)

All I'm saying is let's take the example of something like diabetes, one of --- a disease that's skyrocketing, partly because of obesity, partly because it's not treated as effectively as it could be. Right now if we paid a family -- if a family care physician works with his or her patient to help them lose weight, modify diet, monitors whether they're taking their medications in a timely fashion, they might get reimbursed a pittance. But if that same diabetic ends up getting their foot amputated, that's $30,000, $40,000, $50,000 -- immediately the surgeon is reimbursed. Well, why not make sure that we're also reimbursing the care that prevents the amputation, right? That will save us money. (Applause.)

So changing reimbursement rates will help. The other thing that will really help both nurses and doctors, helping pay for medical education for those who are willing to go into primary care. And that's something that we already started to do under the Recovery Act, and we want to do more of that under health care reform. (Applause.)

All right, last question, last question right here. This is a skeptic, right?

Q I am a skeptic.


Q Thank you, Mr. President, for coming to Portsmouth. My name is Michael Layon (ph). I'm from Derry, New Hampshire, District 1 in the congressional district. I'm one of the people that turned myself in on the White House Web page the other day for being a skeptic of this bill. I'm proud to have done so.

THE PRESIDENT: Before you ask this question, just because you referred to it, can I just say this is another example of how the media ends up just completing distorting what's taken place. What we've said is that if somebody has -- if you get an e-mail from somebody that says, for example, "Obamacare is creating a death panel," forward us the e-mail and we will answer the question that's raised in the e-mail. Suddenly, on some of these news outlets, this is being portrayed as "Obama collecting an enemies list." (Laughter.)

Now, come on, guys. You know, here I am trying to be responsive to questions that are being raised out there --

Q And appreciate it. (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: And I just want to be clear that all we're trying to do is answer questions.

All right, go ahead.

Q So my question is for you, and I know in the White House the stand which you're on has often been referred to as the bully pulpit. Why have you not used the bully pulpit to chastise Congress for having two systems of health care -- one for all of us, and one for them? (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, first of all, if we don't have health care reform, the gap between what Congress gets and what ordinary Americans get will continue to be as wide as it is right now. And you are absolutely right -- I don't think Carol or Paul would deny they've got a pretty good deal. They've got a pretty good deal. I mean, the fact is, is that they are part -- by the way, I want you to know, though, their deal is no better than the janitor who cleans their offices; because they are part of a federal health care employee plan, it is a huge pool. So you've got millions of people who are part of the pool, which means they've got enormous leverage with the insurance companies, right? So they can negotiate the same way that a big Fortune 500 company can negotiate, and that drives down their costs -- they get a better deal.

Now, what happens is, those members of Congress -- and when I was a senator, same situation -- I could, at the beginning of the year, look at a menu of a variety of different health care options, most of them -- these are all private plans or they could be non-for-profit, Blue Cross Blue Shield, or Aetna, or what have you -- they would have these plans that were offered. And then we would then select what plan worked best for us.

But there were certain requirements -- if you wanted to sell insurance to federal employees there were certain things you had to do. You had to cover certain illnesses. You couldn't exclude for preexisting conditions. I mean, there were a lot of rules that had been negotiated by the federal government for those workers.

Now, guess what. That's exactly what we want to do with health care reform. (Applause.) We want to make sure that you are getting that same kind of option. That's what the health exchange is all about, is that you -- just like a member of Congress -- can go and choose the plan that's right for you. You don't have to. If you've got health care that you like, you don't have to use it.

So for example, for a while, Michelle, my wife, worked at the University of Chicago Hospital. She really liked her coverage that she was getting through the University of Chicago Hospital, so I did not have to use the federal employee plan. But I had that option available.

The same is true for you. Nobody is going to force you to be part of that plan. But if you look at it and you say, you know what, this is a good deal and I've got more leverage because maybe I'm a small business or maybe I'm self-employed, or maybe I'm like Lori and nobody will take me because of a preexisting condition, and now suddenly got these rules set up -- why wouldn't I want to take advantage of that?

Now, there are legitimate concerns about the cost of the program, so I understand if you just think no matter what, no matter how good the program is, you don't think that we should be paying at all for additional people to be covered, then you're probably going to be against health care reform and I can't persuade you. There are legitimate concerns about the public option -- the gentleman who raised his hand. I think it's a good idea, but I understand some people just philosophically think that if you set up a public option, that that will drive public insurance out -- or private insurers out. I think that's a legitimate concern. I disagree with it, but that's a legitimate debate to have.

But I want everybody to understand, though, the status quo is not working for you. (Applause.) The status quo is not working for you. And if we can set up a system, which I believe we can, that gives you options, just like members of Congress has options; that gives a little bit of help to people who currently are working hard every day but they don't have health care insurance on the job; and most importantly, if we can make sure that you, all of you who have insurance, which is probably 80 or 90 percent of you, that you are not going to be dropped because of a preexisting condition, or because you lose your job, or because you change your job -- that you're actually going to get what you paid for, that you're not going to find out when you're sick that you got cheated, that you're not going to hit a lifetime cap where you thought you were paying for insurance but after a certain amount suddenly you're paying out of pocket and bankrupting yourself and your family -- if we can set up a system that gives you some security, that's worth a lot.

And this is the best chance we've ever had to do that. But we're all going to have to come together, we're going to have to make it happen. I am confident we can do so, but I'm going to need your help, New Hampshire.

Thank you very much, everybody. God bless you. (Applause.)

2:15 P.M. EDT

Friday, March 6, 2009

Democrat Petition to Silence Rush Limbaugh Comments

These are the comments from a DCCC petition to silence Rush Limbaugh. In the blog post Limbaugh Attacked-You Responded, writer Brandon English tried to stir animosity against the radio talker, but only managed to excite hundreds of comments from Republicans and Conservatives. The Democrats and Liberals got burned. They even removed the petition, but not the comments. Not yet, anyway.

Comments begin 1/29/09 and continue to 2/27/09 with 638 entries.

My commentary can be found at Further Adventures of Indigo Red.

Rush!!! You are not the light in the night.....You are a BRIGHT and burning SUN illuminating all the darkness and revealing the pitfalls along the way. God Bless you mightily Rush.

Posted by Garfield 01/29/09, 07:20 PM EST
This is an outrage! Any criticism of our Obamessiah must be punished to the fullest extent of Sharia law!

Posted by Mahmoud Ahmadinejihad in Tehran, Iran ( www ) 01/29/09, 07:24 PM EST
I already signed the petition Wolffie. Rush knows that most who signed are supporters. That you continue is almost as funny as your Zero headline of yesterday. This blog is fun to read as not a single ‘rat has been on here to support Porkula, especially since Zero claimed that pork was a thing of the past. I hope you realize that pork is the white meat of ‘rat politics.

Posted by Lisa Simpson in Springfield 01/29/09, 07:34 PM EST
The Democratic/NeoMarxist Party can go to hell. It will cease to exist in 10 years. You people are so stupid you can’t handle success even when you con and lie and scheme to attain it. The party will implode and splinter with the 10 % of rational members forming a common sense party. As for the Dear Leader/Messiah. He has Jimmy Carter written all over him

Posted by TOTALITARIAN LEFT in Everywhere 01/29/09, 07:34 PM EST
Keep up the good work Rush. You are doing our country a great service with your show. I am glad to have a patriotic American like you on the airwaves!

Posted by Cooldude 01/29/09, 07:37 PM EST
God bless you Rush! Keep up the great work. These libs are beside themselves and I haven’t had this much fun since Harry Reid helped you raise $4.2 million for our wonderful Marines.

By the way DCCC guys. You say, “Sign our petition and we’ll send your comments to Rush.” Make sure you do just that---SEND THE COMMENTS. From the looks of things, at least 90% of them will be positive!


Posted by IrishEi in Jersey Shore 01/29/09, 07:37 PM EST
Totalitarian, communistic, fascist governments all want to silence dissent. The Dems fall right into those categories. Thank God for Rush who has the intellect, drive, strength, and fearlessness to stand up for our free speech and do it with a smile. Yea Rush!!!!

Posted by June 01/29/09, 07:49 PM EST
The headline “Limbaugh Attacked - You Responded” can be interpreted one of 2 ways:

1. Democrats attacked Rush - Rush supporters responded


2. Democrats attacked Rush by misquoting him - you ignorant people who didn’t check the facts jumped on the bandwagon.

Posted by Greg DeFranco in Cleveland Ohio 01/29/09, 07:54 PM EST
I love maharushee I find the sound of his voice very soothing. If I listen to his show on Friday I can usually
make it through the weekend, not having to think for myself.
This frees me up to do other things. Because of Rush I have true freedom. He Is the leader of the free world!!
He leads us with 1/2 his brain tied behind his back.With talent on loan from God. ahhh maharushee I’d like to kiss his feet.

Posted by mini rush in the right wing underground 01/29/09, 08:00 PM EST

Are these babies still crying about Rush Limbaugh? bwahahahahaha..........

Posted by donna in charlotte, nc 01/29/09, 08:01 PM EST
As a Democrat, I am more pissed off at our own DCCC Director for similar comments:

“every grassroots Democrat ‘hopes’ President Obama fails”
-Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Executive Director Brian Wolff

Posted by What about Wolff? 01/29/09, 08:01 PM EST
Oh, that petition is not what it seems. I submitted a comment (as did many others I know of) praising Rush and encouraging him to KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! WE LOVE YOU RUSH!


Posted by Jim in Georgia 01/29/09, 08:02 PM EST
Wow, this new post shows that whomever wrote it is completely illiterate. Out of the 1700+ comments in the petition, about five supported the DCCC, the other 1695+ supported Rush.

If the DCCC doesn’t even have the judgment to figure this out, how can they run anything of substance.

Posted by Simon 01/29/09, 08:06 PM EST
You Stalinists take the cake. I guess you have nothing better to do than attack a private citizen for his views and the fact that he can freely and confidently speak his mind. Have you ever listened to yourselves? I have, you have no core principles and stutter speak through any contentious issue because you mental midgets have to make sure that what you said in the last sentence doesn’t directly contradict what you’re going to say in the next. You are over-reaching, and it is going to be wonderful to see you fall. I’ll be curious to see whether or not Madame Botox Pelosi can stretch her face to cry when she’s dethroned and loses her private jet priviledges.

I’m glad I have copies of Orwell’s ‘1984’ and ‘Animal Farm’. It’s absolutely creepy how closely what you do and want to do to bring about a socialist utopia matches his books. Americans are free spirited and love freedom. You people need to pack up and move to frickin’ Europe if you hate us so much.

Why don’t you do us all a favor and abort yourselves.

Posted by Tim Schieferecke in AMERICA 01/29/09, 08:06 PM EST
I support Obama.
I do not support his mission.

You can support the Commander in Chief but not his mission.

If the mission is wrong, it is our patriotic duty to dissent. A lot of people have quoted Hillary Clinton, dissent is patriotic.

Posted by Wally Winters Wonderland 01/29/09, 08:08 PM EST
Brian Wolff: are you really an idiot or do you just play one on the internet??

You bet your A$$ we responded—about 1700 to 5 in favor of Rush!!

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/29/09, 08:08 PM EST
Wait a minute...the petition states: “Rush Limbaugh actually said that he ‘hopes’ President Obama fails to meet America’s challenges.”

Now I know why they put only the word “hopes” in quotation marks - the rest of that claim is the OPPOSITE of what Rush said.

First I got all upset, then I Googled to read how bad Rush really was, and I read the rest of the conversation.
You morons, Rush said he hopes Obama SUCCEEDS as long as Obama does things that are GOOD for America and follows all the policies that have WORKED in the past, like cutting income and business taxes, cutting waste and pork, freeing small businesses to build and grow and hire people.

Rush only said he hopes that any plans to induce the failure of America through Socialist, high taxation, pork spending, welfare handouts, and anything that deflates the value of the dollar like the bank bailout did - that THOSE FAILED IDEAS SHOULD FAIL.

We all know those tired old collectivist government takeover ideas and Keynesian spending attempts have ALWAYS CAUSED NATIONS TO FAIL.
And Rush apparently wants BOTH OBAMA AND AMERICA TO SUCCEED, but only at the same time.

The final DCCC statement, that “Jobs, health care, our place in the world — the stakes for our nation are high and every American needs President Obama to succeed.” is a paraphrase NOT of the current DNC proposals, or even from Obama; that’s a paraphrase of RUSH LIMBAUGH.

Wake up, DCCC people, and learn to read.
and think.

sign me,
just another Conservative Thinking Democrat from Illinois.

Posted by RSandman in Illinois 01/29/09, 08:11 PM EST
Fail! Fail! Fail! Obama and your Pelosi/Reid/Frank Socialist minions...may every 819Billion Scammed-buck be a lash to your back rather than on the backs of the hardworking God-fearing Conservatives...Keep shouting out the truth Rush, and Hannity, and Beck...We need all of you guys!

Posted by God Help Us! in Elizabethtown, PA 01/29/09, 08:12 PM EST
“Brian Wolff: are you really an idiot or do you just play one on the internet??”

Ha! Good one!!!

Posted by Mark Leher 01/29/09, 08:14 PM EST
Rush keep up the good work and standing for freedom.
Thank you for your patriotism.
We stand with you against the Socialist whack jobs
Millions support you.

Posted by Derrick in Missouri 01/29/09, 08:15 PM EST
I think that petition will become a new meme- Epic Fail Petition.

Posted by Paula 01/29/09, 08:15 PM EST
If Obama succeeds in socializing America (as his record and rhetoric attest he would attempt) it would possibly be the final nail in the coffin of the American Experiment in limited government which is what made this country great. So yeah, I also want Obama to fail.

Posted by Jack France 01/29/09, 08:16 PM EST
Wolff: you are a disgrace to all Americans, both Democrat and Republican.

Shady journalism—and that’s a compliment. You are a liar and corrupt and should be thrown out of whatever your position is.

You may have awakened the sleeping giant. Nothing brings people together like a common enemy. Especially when that enemy lies like you do.

Posted by Jack Gray 01/29/09, 08:17 PM EST
Rush is one of the best conservative talk show. He tells it like it is. I already wrote in the DCCC post. It is wonderful to see the support he is getting. We love you Rush!!!!!! You are our voices. Keep up the good work. This country is worth fighting for. We can’t let the left get any more power.

Posted by Brenda in Visalia, CA 01/29/09, 08:20 PM EST
Democrats are scum. They’re hell bent on destroying this country. God bless Rush Limbaugh and the congressional Republicans who voted NO to Pelosi, Reid, and Obama’s sham “stimulus” bill.

Posted by A free thinking American 01/29/09, 08:22 PM EST
Rush, you are awesome! I can’t wait to see the evil Obama administration crash! Send that illegal Obama back to where he was born… in Kenya!!!! Then he can continue helping his cousin with his deadly takeover of their government. Obama gave him millions, and so his cousin used it and made a deal with Muslims to murder thousands of Christians, so that his cousin could run the country. Obama, you are PURE EVIL!!!!!!!! We will laugh when you come crashing down!!! You deserve it, you murderer.

Posted by Kate 01/29/09, 08:24 PM EST
I am ASHAMED to be a member of the democrat party!!!

I am ASHAMED of our new President and the way he is attempting to use BROWN SHIRT TACTICS to silence opposing political views!

Rush Limbaugh is right to say whatever he thinks and I will not stand by as MY PARTY attempts to silence ALL opposition! That is NOT democracy! THAT IS TYRANNY!!

SHAME ON THE DNC! I will NEVER give another DIME of my money for this group of anti-free speech NATION SOCIALISTS!!!

Posted by James in Clermont, Florida 01/29/09, 08:25 PM EST
Rush, you have so much common sense, along with great ideas. Obama’s great idea to helping the economy was sex. Just give everyone condoms! What a pervert.

Posted by Kate 01/29/09, 08:26 PM EST
What a load of hypocrisy from you “progressives” (read LIBERALS). You’ve spend 8 years whining, crying, moaning and trying to do everything you can to destroy Bush’s presidency and as soon as someone says something against your “Savior” you go on the attack and snivel about “how unfair”. At least Bush didn’t put a Tax Cheat in charge of the IRS.

Posted by D. Moore in Columbus OH 01/29/09, 08:26 PM EST
This is hilarious. I’m not seeing any support for the DCCC here. Only trashing them for this lame stunt. I guess even democrats can’t support their own attempt at suppressing Rush’s First Amendment rights.

Posted by GOF 01/29/09, 08:28 PM EST
Not working out so well is it libtards?

The porkula bill is all yours. Stimulate the economy? Get you and your stalinists out of the way!

Posted by Dagny Taggart in America ( www ) 01/29/09, 08:29 PM EST
I am a Democrat and I do not like Rush in the least, however, this campaign against a citizen is a disgrace. What happens when one of us says something the powers that be don’t like, will they come after us next?

This is not the Democrat party I love, this is a cheap stunt. This does not stand for freedom or tolerance, peace, or love, or any of the things we stand for.

If you don’t like what Rush says, ignore him, don’t give him the attention. You are empowering his karma, giving him your energy, and driving people to listen to him. Worse, you are doing it by lying. What happens when people sees what he really said and realizes you lied? Who will they start to trust more?

Whomever started this must be fired and should never speak for my beloved Democratic party.

Posted by Ashley Mathews in Dallas Texas 01/29/09, 08:29 PM EST
Thank God for Rush......

Posted by kim in houston 01/29/09, 08:31 PM EST
Keep up the opposition Rush! America needs you.

Posted by george Meredith 01/29/09, 08:36 PM EST
Everyone does realize that this is just a move towards laying the groundwork for the “fairness doctrine.” The dems hate anyone that voices opposition and want to stop it. They’ve been working on the Second Amendment for years. Why would anyone be surprised that they’re going after the First Amendment now.

Posted by GOF 01/29/09, 08:37 PM EST
President Obama has NO right to try to limit what Rush Limbaugh or anyone else says on the radio. Don’t you people know that the media is a check and balance on a government which can become too powerful? The media limited President Bush’s power, and it will also limit President Obama’s power!

Too bad for you facist liberals who want to impose your will on a free people! Don’t you remember in the ‘60’s when you all were chanting, “Get the government out of my life?” What happened since then? Now that you are all in government, you want to get into our lives!

Posted by Fred 01/29/09, 08:38 PM EST
Wolfe as always you only spew what you are told to spew by the almighty CNN.

Most americans, the ones that still read, know what he said and meant. Thanks for trying to misquote him.

Really what is important to us Americans is not what an entertainer like yourself and Rush are saying, but what the the House and Senate is doing to the Nation why you guys make up a “monster” to loath and hate while the real culprits are stealing and turning this nation into a fourth world country. Yes, fourth world.

Anything to take our minds off the real issues is what you guys do day in and day out. Guess Paris and Britney were home behaving so Rush was the guy to attack.

We know what the kids in kongress are trying to do and we are calling them out on it.

Thanks again Wolfe for looking out for the best interest of your network and not the great american people of all colors, shapes and sizes. You are an interesting entertainer to say the least.

BTW, how much tax payer dollars is CNN and it’s affiliates going to get in this round?

Thank goodness some democrats actually decided against this nonsense even though it passed. I just hope the Senate stands up for the nation.

This bill creates nothing but more of the same smoking mirrors that most of the bills coming out of congress has in the last 20 years.

Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton/Obama… Please stop the Bush/Clinton dynasty.

Posted by henry hound clay 01/29/09, 08:40 PM EST
Mega left-coast dittos, Rush. It’s a delight to watch the left’s brownshirt-like tactics blow up in their faces and expose them for the hypocritical, intolerant freedom-squelchers they are. Keep giving ‘em hell.

By the way, DCCC: thanks for posting this petition. Nice job in Congress on that vote on the Generational Theft Act, too - not one single Republican in Congress giving you and yours the fig leaf of bipartisan support. This one’s all yours. Own it.

Posted by Keith Arnold in Alhambra, California ( www ) 01/29/09, 08:43 PM EST
My thoughts, my mind, my body.
Keep your government hands off what I choose to put into my mind. It is not your possession.

Posted by Tarja in Finland and New York 01/29/09, 08:43 PM EST
Rush ROCKS and you can’t stand it.
If you don’t like what he talks about (the TRUTH) then don’t listen to him. I tune out your guy and tune Rush in. Is that what is so upsetting??

Posted by David Flosi in FAR West Texas 01/29/09, 08:46 PM EST
Way to go, Rush! You’re AWESOME!

Posted by Rose in Austin, TX 01/29/09, 08:47 PM EST
Obama, Hilary, and all you other socialist Alinsky-ites (a la, Rules for Radicals) need to understand that we liberty, freedom-loving conservatives have read his book too.

Rush’s offer of a TRUE bipartisan bailout bill in the Wall Street Journal was great!

Oh yes, I too hope that the Obama plan to socialize (Nazi-fy) America FAILS!

Secondly, if you think that you socialists can attack Rush through a reactivation of the “Fairness Doctrine,” you better go read the comments of FCC commissioner Robert McDowell at

“Actually, in a string of media cases stretching back over more than 20 years, various judges on the D.C. Circuit - both Democratic and Republican appointees - have suggested that it is time for the Supreme Court to rethink the concept of spectrum scarcity as a justification for limiting broadcasters’ First Amendment rights. A revived Doctrine would provide a big, bright bulls-eye for those who wish to make that happen. That development would have implications far beyond the Doctrine itself. Much of our content regulation of broadcasters - including most of the FCC’s existing localism rules and the regulations requiring three hours a week of children’s programming - rest on the spectrum scarcity rationale. If that rationale is invalidated, serious legal challenges to all those other content rules may follow.”

Posted by Critical 1 in West Virginia 01/29/09, 08:50 PM EST
I support every Americans right to free speech . I know the President is Obama but I do not need him to tell others who they should listen to. Mr. President get over yourself you were not elected with a huge super majority and the rest of us who did not vote for you are entitled to listen to whom ever we choose. If you do not like Rush dont listen to him but let every man and woman in America have the right to offer a different opinion,

Posted by Wayne Karanovich in Richmond IN 01/29/09, 08:50 PM EST
Democrats should be ashamed of their party and themselves.

To attack and attempt to character assassinate a private citizen by distorting trough reversal of the meaning and subject of his comments, is exactly what Goebbels and Stalin did to kill millions.

Rush wants Obama’s Marxist policy and agenda to fail, he could care less about Obama himself, it’s what his policies will do.

Democrats would have America resemble Cuba or Zimbabwe, rather than have Obama fail.

Shameful lying communists.

Posted by Joe Ordinary in California 01/29/09, 08:51 PM EST
Why would Rush hope for Obama to suceed at destroying the pillars of America’s greatness??? I don’t get what the flap is about. By the way, I was fairly neutral in this past election because I couldn’t support Mccain anymore than Obam. But after watching that “smiling face” video from Chris Von Hollen, I feel like someone has slathered owl squeeze on me. SLIM-EEE. Thanks to this Rush campaign, I’m ready to get really energized about the republican party again (assuming the republicans will get their head out of their $*&* and start standing up to these psychotic bolshevik dems.) I’m ready to do whatever it takes to get these clowns out of town.

Posted by jack tatum 01/29/09, 08:52 PM EST
Rush, keep on going. I’ve listened to you since my dad told me about your show. I listen everyday in the middle of Washington University in St. Louis. You keep me sane, you keep Americans eyes open, and inform them of what no one else will say. God Bless You!!!!!!

Any Conservative or Republican reading this, I ask you to keep on going. They say Barack Obama

(um… DCCC people, your spell check thing flags Barack Obama as misspelled as well as DCCC)

won partially because of his illusion of his supporters complete presence throughout the media and internet. So why don’t we take back the internet while Rush takes back the media by continuing to be the center of attention. Keep the comments going here and everywhere else.

Posted by Zach in St. Louis Washington University 01/29/09, 08:53 PM EST
0bama is attempting to socialize America. Thank God for Rush.

Posted by Eric 01/29/09, 08:54 PM EST
I didn’t even watch the video, but this cracks me up because I read all 47 comments, and not one single comment is in support of this arrogant petition. Not one!

I can’t speak for everyone, but I know that for myself, I have endured the following: the Obama-love fest, the media kissing Obama’s butt, Hollywood drooling all over Obama, having to listen to “Yes we can” even on commercials, hearing all the arrogant Bush-bashing and the Sarah Palin bashing, knowing that millions were spent on his inauguration (in the middle of a recession), and now this stupid petition, and I, for one,am SICK OF IT!!! Sick of having Obama and his “yes we can” shoved in my face constantly, sick of hearing that maybe I am “racist” or not a true American if I don’t agree with or like Obama, sick of the biased, manipulative, power-hungry, and arrogant media, sick of Hollywood who acts like they speak for all the people, sick of Democrats carelessly wasting money, sick of Obama’s voice with his arrogance and inexperience and liberalness, and sickened by this petition trying to silence us. SICK OF IT!!!!!!

So, I am glad that Rush Limbaugh is not afraid to speak out. I am glad that the Republican House leaders all voted No on the stimulus bill. (Way to go Rush and way to go Republicans in the House!!) Glad to read that all these people are as fed up as I am. Glad I am not alone in thinking that I am one of the only sane people left in America because I don’t weep, faint, or tremble at the sight of Obama. He’s just a man, people… get a grip, and while you’re at it, get you’re head out of the sand!

Posted by Ashleigh in Miami 01/29/09, 09:08 PM EST
Congrats Rush! Keep up the good work.

Posted by Barry Sotero in Hawaii 01/29/09, 09:09 PM EST
Limbaugh did not attack. CNN is usually a spin machine for far left ideology, and this muzzle effort is no exception. Rush tells the truth. The DCCC needs to learn from Rush. Obama is a clueless puppet, and we must fight against his destructive policies.

Posted by Ihateglobalism 01/29/09, 09:11 PM EST

This propaganda campaign against Rush is extremely disingenuous and makes you look foolish. When Rush said “I hope he fails” he was referring to Obama’s radical Marxist, anti-family, culture of death policies. Newsflash: Tens of Millions of Americans also hope Obama fails in his arrogant attempts to push these policies on our nation. The Obama euphoria is fast wearing off and nothing but an inexperienced, extremist, corrupt, empty suit from Blago’s Chicago political machine will be left standing.

Posted by Matt in Lynchburg, VA 01/29/09, 09:14 PM EST
I have been a Democrat all my life up until the point that I realized what the Democratic Party has become and what it now represents. This realization came towards the end of 2007 and for the first time in my life, I did not vote for a Democrat.

After seeing this, I’m ready to make the final transition and will change my party registration to Independent effective tomorrow.

Posted by V.G. in Miami, Fl 01/29/09, 09:14 PM EST
You really think you are going to silence Limbaugh or the Republicans? Yah, good luck with that. From what I see, you’ve only given them a reason to feel more impassioned as they have responded to your attempt to intimidate both Limbaugh and Republicans, who have free speech and are free to express their opinions, including opinions that Obama’s policies are bad for this nation. I could care less what the media has to say either. We all know they live in a fantasy land of denial in which they really think that everyone in this country loves Obama the way they do.

Posted by Joanna Fox in San Diego 01/29/09, 09:15 PM EST
Wow Rush is amazing. the dems are so out of touch even the libs in the media can’t figure out the truth that the American people (not left or right) are not in support of the socialization of our nation. come on everyone stand up and make your voice known. it’s not a RED or BLUE state issue this is an American issue. let’s kill this crazy stimulus bill while we can.

Posted by Lance in fort wayne ( www ) 01/29/09, 09:16 PM EST
You have GOT to be kidding! You just proved once again what I’ve always told my kids: “Just because it’s on TV doesn’t make it true”. Extracting phrases and reporting them as “news” is both sophomoric and embarrassing. Do your homework instead of just passing on more tripe. “You responded” ~ absolutely I am! So make sure when you “send the comments to Rush”, you include ALL of them ~ HE knows some of us in America still think, it’s time you did too. Fed up with Rush Limbaugh? Hardly! Truth still matters.

Posted by Christal Frerking in Pioneer, CA ( www ) 01/29/09, 09:19 PM EST
Whew! I’m glad to know it’s not too late to make my voice heard. So, hear me loud and clear: I do NOT like Obama! I do like Limbaugh! I think this petition is ridiculous! And I thank you for creating this blog in which I can exercise my Constitutional right to free speech in letting you know how much I do not like Obama and how much I do support Rush.

Posted by RushFan in Palm Springs, CA 01/29/09, 09:22 PM EST
Say no to socialism! Thanks for getting the word out Rush!

Posted by B. Smith in Denver 01/29/09, 09:23 PM EST
Rush ROCKS and We The People support him. We do NOT support the demokrat porkulus bill. We support the President but not his policies!! Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism, RIGHT HILLARY???

Posted by Barry Soetoro in Hawaii 01/29/09, 09:24 PM EST
Listen, Rush Limbaugh is a true patriot who only wishes the best for this great country. All you liberals are pointing fingers and crying about his comments. I ask ALL of you, did you want George Bush Jr. to succeed after he was elected? NO. Take a look at yourselves, and stop singling out ONE’s embarassing. Whatever happened to free speech you idiots? Nazi Germany tried to silence all critics and opponents too.

I swear you liberal Democrats will be the end of our country. Whatever happened to the morals and values this great country was founded on? GO RUSH! God Bless the United States!

Posted by Seamus 01/29/09, 09:30 PM EST
GO Rush! We all support you! God Bless America!

Posted by Jim 01/29/09, 09:31 PM EST
We have the guns you liberal scumbags...COME AND TAKE EM’..One bullet at a time!

Posted by Charleton Heston Rules! 01/29/09, 09:33 PM EST
Keep after the Totalitarian Left, Rush. democRATs suck ass.

Posted by Crusader Rabbit in As far from D.C. as possible 01/29/09, 09:34 PM EST
Why should we expect anything other than something like this coming from the very people who treated Pres. Bush so horribly and disgustingly for the past 8 years? These people think life revolves around them and that theirs are the only opinions that matter. Everyone else, in their eyes, can just keep their mouths closed, and if they don’t, then they will make sure that they harass, berate, and intimidate. Great bunch of people, eh?

Posted by ScienceTeacher in NYC 01/29/09, 09:35 PM EST
democrat controlled House = FAIL!
democrat controlled Senate = FAIL!
b hussein obama’s policies = FAIL!
b hussein obama as POTUS for the next 4 years = EPIC FAIL!

Posted by fail 01/29/09, 09:36 PM EST
Love You Rush! You must be loving all this support! The DCCC has been good to you- we’re sure they are sending you all these words of support. Haven’t seen anything here in opposition to you. LOL!!

Posted by Mr.Magoo in USA 01/29/09, 09:38 PM EST
Rush Limbaugh is a voice for millions of Americans who disagree with Obama’s policies of socialism, abortion, and capitulation to terrorists. That you Democrats are trying to silence him suggests that you have also become fascists. I hope you all fail.

Posted by No to Socialism and Abortion 01/29/09, 09:43 PM EST
Thank God, and there is a God, that there are men who will speak the truth and not allow even the attacks of the President of America who would be king to quieten his voice.

I will be glad to stand by Rush as President Obama tries to muffle his voice. Millions will join us in opposition just as the men and women of the Boston tea party did.

Posted by Larry & Kathryn Clark in Louisburg, KS ( www ) 01/29/09, 09:51 PM EST
and fox is usually spin machine for the far right ideology what do all you people are on here are non thinking ditto heads the republican spent us into the hole by 4 trillion dollars i think rush is drug addicted boy chasing sick man
Generational Theft Act was the 2001 and 2001 tax cuts for the rich all done by republican

Posted by steve 01/29/09, 09:55 PM EST
It takes courage to take a stand against a man who has a cult-like following. But it’s the mark of the American hero-- courage. America is what she is because of brave people who refused to be quieted by those on power-trips.

Rush speaks out like he does because he loves this country (and he loved it before Obama came along, unlike many of the Dems who hated it and then suddenly loved it because a black man with good looks was elected Pres) and he is concerned, as MANY millions of us are also. We are concerned about the direction that Obama, Pelosi, and all the other liberals are planning on taking us. Their agendas and plans are extreme and ultimately will harm this nation, not help it.

Posted by Alicia in Chicago 01/29/09, 10:00 PM EST
Oh my goodness!!! The DCCC has unwittingly provided me with top notch entertainment. This is rich beyond words. How about we neo-con, ignorant, bumbling, hick, dittoheads turn this place into our own forum?


Posted by Cartman in Your Mom's House 01/29/09, 10:02 PM EST
This is the United States of America. It is a free country, a republic, based on private ownership, private and public virtue, and individual responsibility. It is also based on a strong belief in God, our Father in Heaven.

Thousands have died to preserve our heritage and freedoms. Your attempts to marginalize Rush are pathetic. They are an insult to every red-blooded American soldier who has given years of his life, or life itself, to preserve the values upon which this great republic were established.

Posted by True American in Everywhere in the US 01/29/09, 10:03 PM EST
Cartmann, I think we already have turned it into our own blog! Have you checked out the comments on the other Rush blog? And on the one about “Zero Republicans” voting for the Pork bill?

Everytime we try to engage one of hate-filled, venom spewing Dems in and actual debate they just go…


Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/29/09, 10:08 PM EST
I actually never listened to Rush until this election. Well, I don’t listen to him but I go to his website, along with other conservative sites I discovered during the election (like Newsbusters- a great site which is where I found the information on this petition). And the only reason I went there was because I couldn’t get honest, unbiased news from the media. I got tired of the biases and manipulative stories- they were all the same… Bush is bad, Palin is a joke, and Obama is a god.

Since I am an intelligent person who likes to think for myself, I knew these were merely opinions coming from liberal people who don’t share my values, beliefs, or worldviews. Thus, I discovered Limbaugh, Fox news, and others. So, thanks to the election and the media’s bias, I am now a Rush fan. And I can see that he really irks the Dems/liberals because they can’t stand dissent. They seem to think they rule the world and now they have a leader who thinks the same thing. Frightening.

Posted by Lisa in Arizona 01/29/09, 10:15 PM EST
RUSH,IF ONLY WE STILL HAD YOU ON TV,TOO.So we could have at least two channels, news,to watch.I won’t waste my time on the rest of them. There mindless stew.

Posted by Tim Hautala in Washington state 01/29/09, 10:19 PM EST
I dislike Rush, but Obama is the sheer personification of totalitarian group-think. March 15th get ready for the Obama Deception to be unveiled. Nuts to you, socialist tyrants!!!

Posted by Doug Johnson 01/29/09, 10:27 PM EST
Keep the heat on. This is a typical leftist strategy totally exposed.

Posted by Chuck p 01/29/09, 10:27 PM EST
So far Steve has been the only dem that I’ve seen post. Did he respond to the republican complaint about the attempt to stifle Rush’s first amendment rights? Did he attempt to try to tell us how it isn’t improper for a group that represents our elected officials to attack an American citizen for exercising A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT? No, all he did was throw out personal attacks.

So, once a drug user always a drug user? How about this Stevie boy.

Ever hear the saying about glass ceilings Stevie? But, things like drug use and cheating are only bad if the person is republican. It doesn’t matter when it’s a dem because that’s just everyday normal behavior to them.

Posted by GOF 01/29/09, 10:31 PM EST
Brian, Like I said, you are pretty much looking like a horse’s butt right now. This petition has backfired on you and your Socialists.

Posted by dee 01/29/09, 10:36 PM EST
Here are Rush’s exact words so everyone can see how dishonest this DCCC campaign against him is:

“...if he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan. But if he’s going to do FDR—if he’s going to do The New New Deal all over, which we will call here The Raw Deal—why would I want him to succeed? Look, he’s my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. It matters not at all. If he is going to implement a far-left agenda… Look, I think it’s already decided: a $2 trillion in stimulus? The growth of government? I think the intent here is to create as many dependant Americans as possible looking to government for their hope and salvation. If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it’s over, Sean. We’re never going to roll that back. That’s the end of America as we have known it, because that’s then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated, or provided. Why would I want that to succeed? I don’t believe in that. I know that’s not how this country is going to be great in the future; it’s not what made this country great. So I shamelessly say, “No! I want him to fail.” If his agenda is a far-left collectivism—some people say socialism—as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed? “

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Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/29/09, 10:42 PM EST
Is there any way that I can sign a petition against the dccc? I’m going to donate $1,000 dollars to Rush.

Posted by Rush IsAwesome 01/29/09, 10:46 PM EST
Rush has a link on his website about a petition.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/29/09, 10:48 PM EST
Well, I stand corrected Stephanie. This was brought to my attention after a few days of no internet! Then I went and ran my mouth on the first story. Should have looked around some more. It’s even more beautiful than I could have imagined.

... and they want to talk about conservatives with their head in the sand. PUH’LEEZ! If they are reading the comments, they’re hoping we go away by ignoring us. If they’re not reading the comments, well, they don’t think much of their own site.

Posted by Cartman in On The Phone Calling Senators 01/29/09, 10:49 PM EST
I don’t know about you, Cartmann, but I’m here to stay! This is the most fun I’ve had on the internet since Al Gore invented it!

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/29/09, 10:51 PM EST
Viva El Rushbo!

Posted by Hank in Cincinnati 01/29/09, 10:52 PM EST
Lets all march in step my good little brownshirts. First we will tear down freedom of speech. Next we can round up all the dissenters for the train cars that obama is going to rebuild.

Posted by Plubious in A FREE REPUBLIC 01/29/09, 10:58 PM EST
I don’t always agree with Rush Limbaugh, but he got this one right.

Posted by Sean Gleeson in Oklahoma City 01/29/09, 11:01 PM EST
This just takes Rush out of context. He doesn’t want socialism to succeed. As a Canadian (currently in North Dakota), I know first hand just what things like socialized medicine can do. We have people laying on stretchers in halls, if they can get into hospital. Also, when the medical system can’t fix the patients problem here........guess where they get the USA!! If you think your medical sytem is expensive now.....just wait until you get a socialized one like ours and you’ll find out what expensive and ineffienciency is all about. You money will all tied up into red tape administrations, and labour unions, and not in the treatment of people. You’re research will also struggle as fund dry up because they are being used to basically fund the top end bureaucracy that is created. Don’t go down this road America. It is a dead end.

Posted by Nick Helgon in Willistion ND 01/29/09, 11:03 PM EST
We, the leaders of the Demoncratic party, hereby admit we were wrong.

We apologize to Mr. Limbaugh and will try to do better than we have already.

Forgive us, we capitulate

Posted by Ricky 01/29/09, 11:15 PM EST
We’re trying Nick, trying hard. I’m only old enough to have voted in three Presidentials, and this is the most passion about my beliefs that I have ever had. I sulked from November through January 20th. I watched the immaculation and felt the blood boiling within. I am now an active member of my party hoping to rid it of the good ol’ boys and computer illiterate local pancake breakfasts. We have a LOT of work ahead of us…

... and Stephanie, I think I’m stuck here too.

Posted by Cartman 01/29/09, 11:16 PM EST
Ricky, Post 89—you are a fraud.

A real Democrat could never spell the word capitulate—much less know the meaning....

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/29/09, 11:19 PM EST

Rush...we support you, we pray for you and your CONTINUED SUCCESS! May God Bless You!

Posted by Lisa in Alaska 01/29/09, 11:22 PM EST
Go DCCC! Help stamp out political dissent! Thank you for counting all the votes in Florida last year!

Posted by Titus in Rushville 01/29/09, 11:47 PM EST
They should amend that to 59,998 votes. I voted twice giving rush props!!!

Posted by Brad 01/30/09, 12:04 AM EST

Our Messiah died on the cross at the hands of the Romans over 2000 year ago. Got it???

Keep up the good work Rush!

Posted by Ruby Slippers in Somewhere over the rainbow 01/30/09, 12:05 AM EST
i just have to laugh every time i hear the terms blasted out of the dnc about conservatives being ‘hate mongers’ ad nauseum. since liberals will never own the high ground, i just must assume that you’re too busy being high, period. maybe that explains it, or maybe it’s just the silly liberal arts degrees that you have on display behind your bully pulpits. it’s sad really, and you’ll just simply never get a real education out here in the real world, where the living, breathing pulse of our representative republic resides. you’re doomed to be footnotes in the great socialistic failures of history. what an expensive waste.

Posted by jack barton in texas 01/30/09, 12:11 AM EST
Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it’s idiot.

Dissent is patriotic.


Posted by GOPGator 01/30/09, 12:11 AM EST
I haven’t read all the comments. Are there ANY anti-Rush comments at all? LOL!!

Posted by GOPGator 01/30/09, 12:12 AM EST
There’s a few, Gator. One pops up, talks a point and disappears. This is powerful fun.

Posted by Cartman 01/30/09, 12:14 AM EST
GO RUSH!!!!! The Marxist Obama is going to ruin this country with his Communist policies. RUSH LIMBAUGH IS RIGHT, so is Mike Church and Andrew Wilkow. You Commies will not silence free speech in America, no matter what your hero Stalin did.....GO RUSH.... GO Capitalism.... GO America!!!!!


Posted by Brian Stofiel in midway GA ( www ) 01/30/09, 12:15 AM EST

Hey, you Socialist Democrats 57 million of us didn’t vote for Mr. Obama, and as far as I know he hasn’t signed an Executive Order revoking our First Amendment Rights! So, Rush and every one else has a right to voice their opinion and most especially when we don’t agree with you and Obama’s socialist policies. You Democrats don’t want to just be in charge you want to dictate and dominate everyone in the country can you say Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro

Posted by Dan Willson in Maryland 01/30/09, 12:22 AM EST
Mr. President, unless you have taken it upon yourself to change this law, we have freedom of speech here. I’m SO sorry you don’t like the things that Rush Limbaugh says about you. You do know he isn’t the only one that feels this way about you right? Do you plan on trying to silence all of us? You’ve only been in office 9 days and trust me we have A LOT more to say. If you can’t handle it then you have no business being the US president!

Posted by Laura Ruiz 01/30/09, 12:26 AM EST
I greatly appreciate Mr. Limbaugh’s honestly and opinion. As a conservative Republican I stand along side with him, I do not want Obama politics to succeed, I love my country too much. Let’s encourage him and others to keep it up, and let’s continue the right and good use of our free speech!

Posted by Matthew in Hayward, CA 01/30/09, 12:42 AM EST
In the past week I have called; my congresswoman, senators, ABC, and e mailed my objection to a local car dealership who was running a commercial based on the “shoe throwing” incident that furthered the disrespect that was given to our former president. I did a cc: of this e mail to our State Speaker of the House. Within 48 hours the commercial disappeared. All this to say “folks we can make a difference”. Why do you think none of the GOP’s voted for the stimulus bill in the House ? They have been flooded with our phone calls and e mails. Our support of Rush is equally important. I don’t want the KGB knocking at my door because I disagreed with a political issue, do you ? God Bless Rush for showing us the way to peacefully protest.

Posted by Robert in Southwest 01/30/09, 12:44 AM EST
Thanks Rushie! Love ya man!

Posted by littlebuddie 01/30/09, 12:46 AM EST
Rush is doing a great job! The best radio show in the history of the world. The media did not make Rush so the media can not destroy him. I like the thought that just maybe......the sleeping giant is arising. God bless You Rush!

Posted by Randy 01/30/09, 12:51 AM EST
Cheers Rush - keep up the good work!! I love these comments and I’m laughing my ass off at the Democrats who thought this was going to accomplish something.

I’m tipping my glass to you, and hoping Obama fails at the same time.

Oh yea - I’ve got a huge gun collection! Take that Pelosi!

Posted by Phil Conner in Deep South ( www ) 01/30/09, 12:52 AM EST
Thank God that people like Rush still have the guts to stand up against the powerful voices in much of the media. He is a voice in the wilderness and may truly be our last hope.

Posted by WrongToeJoe in Los Angeles 01/30/09, 12:54 AM EST
You democRATS don’t have a clue. President Bush was so demonized. And know WE have to get along? Go live in some socialist country that already exists. PLEASE!!!

Posted by Randy 01/30/09, 12:55 AM EST

Real Americans will keep our free speech, our guns and our money, thank you very socialist democrats can keep the “change!”


Posted by Ihatesocialism in USA ( www ) 01/30/09, 01:04 AM EST
IMPEACH OBAMA now. He is tyring to remove the 1st Amendment rights of Rush Limbaugh. Obama swore to uphold the laws of the land. Why don’t you get to work and fix that bill your party passed 300 million for STD’s come on what jobs will that make outside the porn business? Did Larry Flynt and Heffner give you a lot of money and is this your pay back to them?

Posted by Jeff in LA, CA 01/30/09, 01:10 AM EST
El Rusbo? You ROCK! They fear you! Why else would they WHINE? Got cheese?

Czarbama...coward and fraud.

Posted by Snooper in Texas ( www ) 01/30/09, 01:31 AM EST
Wow, so a man can’t express his opinion? Amazing what the democrats will stoop to. This is all the more reason intelligent people need to stand up to a President who would rather kill his grandchild then punish his daughter with a baby. Democrats created this mess, and now they are trying to sweep it under the rug. The failed banks are directly the result of Democratic party ideologies. Democrats spend $170 million on a coronation, and wonder why those of us on the right just shake our heads. Useful idiots elected a fraud. Have a nice day. :-)

Posted by Dennis Madashell in Washington 01/30/09, 01:47 AM EST
Rush is right. I hope with all my heart that Obama fails in implementing his socialist agenda. What whiners the Democrats are! What hypocrites! Where was the outrage for the last 8 years when our Commander in Chief, President Bush was called every hateful name in the book, when encouragement was even given for his assassination? Not just criticism, which he handled graciously as he did everything else, but downright treason?! Were any of you Democrats rooting for his success? Were you shocked when you heard that your people wanted him to fail? Hypocrisy is just another word for Democrat.

Posted by conservativemom 01/30/09, 01:54 AM EST

Posted by Inspired Citizen in On the DCCC website 01/30/09, 02:24 AM EST
Gee, if the messiah succeeds in passing censorship on syndication what will happen to you wolf?

Posted by American in listening to talk radio! 01/30/09, 02:32 AM EST
Limbaugh hoped his president failed is a lively proof of his support to the enemy. He can criticize, but not put a hope like that

Posted by Francis in PA 01/30/09, 03:02 AM EST
Wow!! Heard about the controversy over Rush, came here, and what do I find? TONS of comments supporting Rush and feeling the same outrage that I feel over this attempt at silencing dissent! HOW DARE THEY!? Who do these liberals think they are?! This election seriously has gone to their heads in bad, bad ways, and sadly, Obama sets the example for them. He thinks everyone ought to bow down to him, including the Republican leaders who proved recently that they will not bow to his majesty! Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and I, too, hope he fails!!

Posted by Tamra in California 01/30/09, 03:14 AM EST
There IS such a thing as the 1st Amendment (I’m assuming the Democrats remember what THAT is).

Posted by Walter Lane in Beverly Hills, Florida 01/30/09, 05:07 AM EST
El Rushbo, your the man! As soon as the newly selected Messiah administration and appeasement center returns some of my hard earned money I’m going to sign up for Rush 24/7, the National Review and give the rest to the Heritage Foundation. Now that’s stimulating!

Posted by Michael F. 01/30/09, 05:52 AM EST
Limbaugh...Limbaugh....Limbaugh....Time will prove you are right again. Watch out! The left is out to stop free speech. I Pledge aleagance to the flag......with Liberty… Liberty to discuss and speak your mind. Not if it is against the will of the leftist party. Just like Germany, prior to WWII. What is this CHANGE we are going through????

Posted by Sho Me the truth in Missouri 01/30/09, 07:15 AM EST
“Limbaugh hoped his president failed is a lively proof of his support to the enemy. He can criticize, but not put a hope like that “

Dear Francis:

This DCCC petition is lost. DCCC needs to withdraw now. DCCC is a failure as a hate-filled, lying, extremist Anti-American website.

Quite the success in an actual discussion of the facts on teh ground though. ;-)

Posted by Rod Serling in the Twilight Zone 01/30/09, 07:19 AM EST
I find it hilarious that the this page exists much less the website. The fact that Obama is in office (and we have polls proving this) is testimony to the fact that government run education (really government run anything) is a dismal failure. That is why I want the socialist bailout policies to fail.

Get out of my back pocket you Democrat sluggards. Get out there, work and become productive citizens rather than leeching off of the American worker!!!

Posted by Chris 01/30/09, 07:39 AM EST
Just going to your OWN website siting/signing the Petition .... it’s about 90%-95% King LRushbo supporters “HUBBA” “HUBBA” “HUBBA”!! RIGHT ON! RIGHT ON! RIGHT ON !!

ThanQ for letting us “KING LRushbo/Dittoheads” on your site in getting the truth out .... MAYBE their won’t be any FAIRNESS DOCTRINE after all.... OR THIS COULD BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END of FAIRNESS DOCTRIN/FREEDOM OF SPEECH !!

Posted by SuzioooRah 01/30/09, 07:53 AM EST
Rush is arrogant. It’s hard not to be when you’re right all the time like he is.

The “democratic” government will not stop until Rush, Hannity, and Beck are off the public airwaves. The country will be the worse off for it when all effective voices of opposition to the new regime are silenced.


Posted by Bill R in North Carolina 01/30/09, 08:12 AM EST
How many taxpayer dollars are you liberal fascists spending on this attempt to shut down free and open dialog? In the face of all the potential national priorities Limbaugh’s comments regarding “The Messiah” are not even on the screen.

Most of us got over this obsessive defensiveness when we graduated from high school. I guess you libs are just late bloomers!

Posted by sclemens 01/30/09, 08:34 AM EST
WOW - I had NO idea how blatantly the Dummycrats (Brian Wolff) take Rush sound bytes out of context!!!

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has to be EXPOSED for the lies they routinely feed to the sycophantic mainstream media!!

I can’t wait to start helping the campaigns of Conservative Republicans for 2010 elections.

Thanks for the Inspiration!

Posted by A Real American in NYC 01/30/09, 08:35 AM EST
Back off Nobama! Leave Rush alone you slimy piece of *&^%$$#$#%!

Posted by Ghost of Lincoln in Houston, Tx. 01/30/09, 08:44 AM EST
To save yourself from Rush, simply turn off your radio unless the real concern is limiting what other individuals may hear. It does not matter what Rush says, socialism will always fail as the government of weak sheep. Who will be the “Fairness Czar”?

Posted by SocialistSheep 01/30/09, 08:46 AM EST
“I hope he fails”

What do you think you DEMONcRATS were doing for the last 8 years????? You called President Bush every evil thing you could think of!!!! Liberalism is pathetic and about to take this country down with it...Rush is a private citizen and the government should NEVER have ANY influence on political speech from a private citizen!!!! Free Speech was SPECIFICALLY called for in the first amendment to protect POLITICAL speech and he can say what he wants!!

At least his speech is covered under the first amendment unlike pornography!!!!

Posted by Conservative Only in New York 01/30/09, 09:14 AM EST
Talk about taking one’s words out of context! Talk about “lying” about what was really said! You people at the DCCC ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Keep up the great work, Rush. Keep leading the attack against the Democrats who are continually screwing up everything they touch.

Posted by Towen Fairbanks in Nashville, Tennessee 01/30/09, 09:25 AM EST
Rush LImbaugh is a naturally born citizen of the United States of America.

Barack Hussein Obama is NOT a naturally born citizen of the United States of America . . . yet he’s now the president of the United States. He’s spent upwards of $800,000 on attorneys to prevent the release of his alleged “birth certificate.”

So . . . who’s living the lie? Hmmmm?

Posted by Michelle in L.A. 01/30/09, 09:30 AM EST
Post 117: “Limbaugh hoped his president failed is a lively proof of his support to the enemy. He can criticize, but not put a hope like that “

Typical liberal - can’t even write a decent sentence that makes any sense at all.

Posted by Jack Gray 01/30/09, 09:30 AM EST
So ... What is the DCCC’s policy on taking political positions on the free-speech exercises of private individuals? It is curious and frustrating to me, as a private citizen, that our current congress has wasted our time and money petitioning against a man, Rush Limbaugh, who is well within his rights to speak freely about the state of our great nation as he sees it. I may not always agree with him, but the fragile separation of state and the free speech of private individuals is far too precious for me to allow this wastefulness to go unaddressed. I also do not always agree with the members of our congress - but I respect them. I only ask that this respect be reciprocated by the body that was elected to the awesome responsibility of protecting our precious freedoms, not to assault them. Mark my words: Such grotesque perversions of our nation’s values are intolerable, and can not go on without consequence. Intrusions on our rights as Americans will be evicted from the sacred grounds established by our forefathers, who died so generously to ensure the freedoms that you now assault.

Posted by Brandon in PA 01/30/09, 09:38 AM EST
This is a blast! What fun reading all the comments from supporters of El Rushbo! Doesn’t the DCCC read their own web site? To the 1,700 of you that responded in favor of Rush, I say “MEGA DITTOS”! To the five of you supporting the DCCC I say “be afraid, be very afraid”, things will change very drastically in favor of Conservatives beginning in the 2010 election cycle. MARK MY WORDS!

Posted by Jim in New Jersey 01/30/09, 09:43 AM EST
Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Hope is the first step on the road to despair.

Thanks you incompetent Americans for voting in this Jimmy Carter Reincarnation. Rush keep hammering these politcal hacks it’s time for American to get a clue of how f****d up this country is going to become if they keep voting these idiots into office! It time for a new party...some wrote the common sense party...I like it!

FUDCCC and your puppet master king george soros.

Posted by texan68 in Austin, Texas 01/30/09, 10:04 AM EST
Are you gonna tell rush the truth or some obama truth?
Bunch of socialist!

Posted by ND Hamby in quitman, texas 01/30/09, 10:24 AM EST
Let’s remember the honorable history of this blessed nation for a moment… shall we??

“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry


“You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin—just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard ‘round the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn’t die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? Well it’s a simple answer after all.

You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, “There is a price we will not pay.” “There is a point beyond which they must not advance.” And this—this is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater’s “peace through strength.” Winston Churchill said, “The destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we’re spirits—not animals.” And he said, “There’s something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty.”

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.

We’ll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we’ll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.

We will keep in mind and remember that Barry Goldwater has faith in us. He has faith that you and I have the ability and the dignity and the right to make our own decisions and determine our own destiny.” Ronald Reagan


“They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN


“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” Thomas Jefferson

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” Thomas Jefferson


“You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe” John Adams


“If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained _ we must fight!” Patrick Henry

And finally…

“… God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

Thomas Jefferson


May we ALL remember what this nation was built on, by Whom, and for what reason(s) we should still persist today and resist tyranny at ALL COSTS!!!


Posted by Mike in Texas ( www ) 01/30/09, 10:32 AM EST
Attacks on civilians (Rush) by government affiliated parties like this are ridiculous (if not constitutionally questionable). Especially, since Rush’s comments have been taken out of context by the DCCC so that they can demonize him.

Posted by initer 01/30/09, 10:33 AM EST
How come the dems can’t get any democrats with a brain to post? Oh yeah, there arn’t any..... In case one is listening please explain to me how studying stds will create a job, tell me how billions to ACORN will create a job (except to get crooked polsters next election), tell me how the whole dang bill will create a job. All this bill is is a welfare program.

Posted by ND Hamby in quitman, texas 01/30/09, 10:33 AM EST
You democrats need to step back and take a look at yourselves. Freedom of speech is one of the cornerstones of our constitution and Rush is the voice of 57 million free-thinkers in this country. He is successful because he resonates with so many Americans. Al Franken failed miserably with Air America because his views were not popular enough to garner financial support from corporate sponsors (besides being a B-rate commentator). You whining liberals enjoy your moment in the sun because when the veil is lifted within the next 2 years and all those swing voters realize they’ve been screwed, we can look forward to a return to conservatism Congress - then the real CHANGE can begin!

Posted by Ranger Ron in Montana 01/30/09, 10:35 AM EST
Hey look… another Epic(ally) Fail(ing) Liberal attempt at censure. How many BLOGs are you guys going to put up?

Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 01/30/09, 10:38 AM EST
Why do you think the American public is so stupid? Do you think us incapable of reading the transcript of his quote in full context despite your out-of-context hack job?

Much like your error with George W. Bush, your presumption of stupidity makes it much easier for you to be defeated.

Go ahead. Keep insulting us.

Posted by Joe Mainusch in Boscawen, NH 01/30/09, 10:39 AM EST

Let’s remember the honorable history of this blessed nation for a moment… shall we??

“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry


“You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin—just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard ‘round the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn’t die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? Well it’s a simple answer after all.

You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, “There is a price we will not pay.” “There is a point beyond which they must not advance.” And this—this is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater’s “peace through strength.” Winston Churchill said, “The destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we’re spirits—not animals.” And he said, “There’s something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty.”

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.

We’ll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we’ll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.

We will keep in mind and remember that Barry Goldwater has faith in us. He has faith that you and I have the ability and the dignity and the right to make our own decisions and determine our own destiny.” Ronald Reagan


“They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BENJAMIN FRANKLIN


“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” Thomas Jefferson

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” Thomas Jefferson


“You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe” John Adams


“If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained _ we must fight!” Patrick Henry

And finally…

“… God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

Thomas Jefferson


May we ALL remember what this nation was built on, by Whom, and for what reason(s) we should still persist today and resist tyranny at ALL COSTS!!!


Posted by Mike in Texas ( www ) 01/30/09, 10:41 AM EST
This is silly.
Rush Limbaugh is a foolish, bitter man who feeds off attention. His listener base of myopic and closed minded ultra conservatives is dwindling and the only way he can get people to pay attention to his antics is to get interviewed by other pundits that are still taken seriously. The guy’s been a pessimistic douche, and a thorn in the side of the educated conservative, for as long as I can remember. Why would anyone validate his spewings by taking them seriously?
This is America, and no matter how backwards or poorly conceived your views may be you still have the right to them.
So lets stop making such a big deal out of this whole thing and put Rush back onto white trash radio where he belongs.

Posted by DMonster in Maine. 01/30/09, 11:22 AM EST
First ‘100 years in Iraq’, then ‘Fundamentals of Economy are strong’, now this. How many times are Democrats going to take words out of contest, put them on heavy rotation and hope that most Americans are too dumb, ignorant, or lazy to know they are completely out of context? Democrats are always oversimplifying things that shouldn’t be.

This is $819bn of our tax payer dollars. More than $200,000 per job created (or saved) and that’s IF it works, which it most likely will NOT. Thank goodness there is someone who is not falling into rank and file behind the rest of the Obama sheep. Cheers Rush! The DCCC and Obama have finally met a conservative they can’t intimidate, buy, or bury under libelous slander. 2010 is looking better and better. Bring your swiffer sweepers Repubs, there’s gonna be a mess to clean up!

Posted by Danny in Orlando 01/30/09, 11:43 AM EST
There is a lesson in this for you Libs, You can only use DEAD PEOPLE and INDIGENTS to pad the vote, they are not going to be there for you when you need a voice. The rest of the Liberals are too busy swilling their celebratory beers and too ignorant to understand the grave issues that surround us. You are AWOL on yourselves and only good now for standing around with hands out complaining on behalf of the Democrat party. Have fun getting in the face of Rush Limbaugh and trying to shout him down. Hope you packed your life-preservers on this journey.

Posted by littlebuddie in People's Socialist Republic Of Oregon 01/30/09, 11:48 AM EST
You people in the leftist media machine have lost all credibility. Rush is 100% right, I hope Obama’s marxist policies fail as well.

Posted by James 01/30/09, 11:49 AM EST
By the way Mr. Manusch,
presuming the stupidity of conservatives makes liberals easy to be defeated? Was that your attempt at being intimidating?
While I do appreciate the sentiment - I also can’t stand it when people flippantly dismiss alternative views as stupid - your timing couldn’t be worse.
With democrats in the majority in both the house and the senate, a democrat for President, and the republicans loosing ground every time people get a chance to vote I’d say that “easy to defeat” is a poor description of the democratic party at the moment.

Posted by DMonster in Maine 01/30/09, 11:50 AM EST
I hope this makes more people listen to Rush- then maybe we won’t have such an ignorant, uneducated public that uses soundbites to make arguments. Rush has the truth on his side. Don’t think the DCCC expected such a backlash on their own comment board. Love live el Rushbo! Unlike Obama- he doesn’t need a teleprompter to inspire people. NO on the Democratic Spending Bill in the Senate! No to wasteful pork! No to non-stimulative nanny-state programs, and no to the Pelosi-Reid-Obama trifecta! Reid is out in 2010, and Obama is NEXT!

Posted by Palin/Jindal2012 in Long Island, NY 01/30/09, 11:52 AM EST

I am a Liberal but most people just don’t realize it yet.
Thank God I have Nancy P. atching my back.

Posted by Barry Hussein in Just off the Mall 01/30/09, 12:20 PM EST
The issue here is freedom of speech. Like too many revisionist redefinition of words and concepts, the application of “Fairness” to a doctrine that actually limits the ability of ALL views, including those views that disagree with your own closely held beliefs, is not only NOT Fair, but is just another attempt to limit our basic freedoms in the name of Fairness.

So it simply does not matter whether Rush Limbaugh or even President Obama made the statement. I don’t routinely defend Rush or any other commentator but even if construed as an attack, it was not an attack on anything but those opposed to the proliferation of ALL points of view including those of Conservatives, Christians, or any non-revisionist views of our times and our history.

The President’s de-facto support of a fairness type policy, as viewable in the Technology section of the White House website, in fact disagrees with his campaign promise to oppose the actual revival of the FCC Fairness Doctrine. And hopefully he will remember that promise when and if Sen. Boxer’s FCC Fairness Doctrine legislation comes before him for signature

Posted by George C Palmer in Palmyra, NY 14522 01/30/09, 12:24 PM EST
It is wrong to try to silence an American citizen. If we have to listen to Pelosi, you DESERVE to listen to Rush!

Posted by Kay 01/30/09, 12:27 PM EST
Keep up the good work, Rush.

Posted by Texas Dittohead in Behind enemy lines ( www ) 01/30/09, 12:28 PM EST
Rush is right, the Dems want to tax and regulate us into oblivion. We have to avoid Obama oblivion.

Posted by Sally Flosi in College Station,Tx home of the fightin Texas Aggie 01/30/09, 12:30 PM EST
Rush Is Right don’t doubt it!

Posted by Norman Moeller 01/30/09, 12:51 PM EST
59 MILLION Americans voted for McCain.

NO we will NOT be silenced and NO Obama is not King. Get over yourself.

Posted by Fed Up 01/30/09, 12:51 PM EST
I’M with Rush on this. You Democrats attacked George Bush for 8 years. Nancy P. and Harry R. have done nothing but bad mouth G. Bush and the Republicans. You can’t come up with any ideas of how to fix this mess you have put us in. (And yes, I say you as in the Democrats) All you can do is attack the conservatives. Funny how G Bush gets all the blame for the country, but it’s the Congress that spends the money and is it just me that sees everything has really gotten worse in the last couple of years since you all took over. You mess with Rush, and it’s going to backfire. You guys would be better off if you would tell the truth, but that’s not what you are about. Playing a small clip of Rush and taking what he said completely out of context. The conservative don’t have to miss quote you guys or play small clips of thing you say to make you look bad. What you Democrats say on a daily basis makes you look bad without the Republicans miss quoting you.

Posted by Randy Olson in Plano, TX 01/30/09, 12:59 PM EST
Don’t pay any attention to anything I say. After all, I am an idiot who doesn’t even know how to spell “lose”.

Posted by DMonster in Maine 01/30/09, 12:59 PM EST
And the funny thing is: I was making fun of Republicans for being uneducated.

Well, what can I say? Product of the liberal public school system.

Posted by DMonster in Maine 01/30/09, 01:01 PM EST
You Nazis here and your Bros making the targeted ads today at a Private Citizen who DARES to use his RIGHT to FREE SPEECH will be your undoing come 2010. That and your Socialist Bag of Goodies your trying to FORCE the Reps to sign onto for your Failures cover.

Screw you DCCC

Posted by Dave 01/30/09, 01:21 PM EST
Keep it up Rush. I served in two different branches of the US military to support your right to say what you want and my right to listen. I also defended the rights of those who don’t want to listen to the truth to turn the channel. How about we also discuss the possibility that President Obama may not be a “natural born” citizen. What ever you discuss, keep doing good work.

Posted by Dr. Tony in Illinois 01/30/09, 01:56 PM EST

You can always tell whom their biggest enemy is by the level of lies and deceit that the DCCC and the Democrat party of Dhimmitude espouse. And typical Obamessiah worshipping and slobbering Obama media marches in lockstep as they have investment in putting Obumble into Presidential slot.




America is a Right leaning nation and aims to stay that way.


Posted by Fidel Castro 01/30/09, 02:10 PM EST
Please send this to Rush! I would love for him to know that it is the DCCC that I am outraged at for this petition. The first amendment gives you the right to post this site and it gives those of us who choose to to listen to Rush!!! We cannot afford to have our rights stripped away any more than they already are. Please continue to listen to Rush if you choose as this is our right. THANK YOU RUSH for all that you do and for your courage in doing it. God Bless America…

Posted by m.g.ricciardi in pennsylvania 01/30/09, 02:17 PM EST
We have to listen to Keith Oberman and Rachel Maddow CONTINUE to bash Bush and the republicans, so if you don’t like Rush, turn off the radio.

Freedom, free speech and our whole way of life is under attack by Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

If they pass this 1 trillion dollar pork bill, our kids and grandkids (maybe even us) will find ourselves the slaves of China/Russia because we owe all of this money to them.
God help us and God please protect America from those who despise freedom and capitalism.

Posted by Rep 01/30/09, 02:22 PM EST
Three cheers for Rush Limbaugh! I listen every chance I get. I may not agree with everything the man says but he knows whats really going on and certainly should not be silenced.

Rush stands up for the American way of life. If only the MSM did the same!!

Posted by Ziegfried 01/30/09, 03:01 PM EST
Your hacky editing of Rush’s comments is laughable. Rush, shockingly enough, as some one opposed to Obama’s Big Government solutions to our current situation, hopes that those Big Government measures fail so that market solutions that work will succeed. Shocking, isn’t it?

Here’s a quote from Brian Wolff, edited in a similar fashion:

“Last week, Rush Limbaugh...actually said that he ‘hopes’ meet America’s challenges.”

Posted by Jack M. in New York, New York 01/30/09, 03:05 PM EST
Socialism, in all its forms, from the most totalitarian to the OMG-look-at-his-pecs-isn’t-he-COOL that seems to be popular in the United States these days,is doomed to failure. Get used to it.

Posted by Schadenfreude in Ottawa, Canada 01/30/09, 03:06 PM EST
Love reading Rush’s fans who are as moronic as he is. Remember he is a fat drug addicted neo-Nazi who hates women and is basically a disloyal American. Proven wrong when he ‘went after” Clinton’s fiscal policy, and then the subsequent Republican administration squandered Clinton’s budget surplus and have now left office, having bankrupted the country. Only retards can still think conservatively.

Posted by Disillusioned 01/30/09, 03:12 PM EST
I’ve read through many of the posts on this thread. So far I have found only two in support of Obama’s socialist agenda and against Rush. And both of them seem incapable of writing a coherent English sentence. And they claim that conservatives are dumb???

Posted by Stan Hall in Kansas City, MO 01/30/09, 03:21 PM EST
Limbaugh attacked? You call it an attack, as if he is a terrorist instead of a talk show host speaking his mind. What are you thinking!

Posted by Linda Thomason in Eagle Rock, MO 01/30/09, 03:26 PM EST
Once again the lame-stream media’s attempts to Censor Rush have blown up in their face. Hi-larious!!

Posted by Annieflies in Va ( www ) 01/30/09, 04:02 PM EST
I haven’t had so much fun since the Palin/McCain ticket when down in flames. This comment by the President was like throwing raw meat to a bunch of mad dogs. These right wing so called christian fanatics are unable to handle any one disagreeing with their backward and moronic way of thinking. Sorry boys if you can’t take the heat stay out of the kitchen, but we do appreciate all that you do to keep the Democrats in power thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Dennis in Florida 01/30/09, 04:18 PM EST
Way to go, Rush! I hope the Yobama the squirrel, fails to screw up this country.

Posted by Steve hoffman in TEXAS 01/30/09, 04:18 PM EST
Just wanted to hop on and echo the previous 170+ comments supporting this the:

“EPIC FAIL (of all failed) PETITIONS”

oh, wait time to shut up Obama might try and be my mama and tell to hush-it.

Posted by Ryan 01/30/09, 04:34 PM EST
THAT FUZZBALL is da bomb!!! You go Rushie baby!! ROCK ON - free speech is American; RUSH is American!! We are all Americans & can say & listen to anything anytime anywhere - just try to touch my rights libtard mf’ers!!

I’d bet big money Rush would show us his vault copy of his BIRTH CERTIFICATE if we asked real nice too - sarc - ROFLMAO -

Posted by Cason 01/30/09, 04:48 PM EST
Time to stand up for the freedoms are Founding Fathers fought for. Such as the the Freedom of Speech, you Commies.

Posted by Dwayne in Ohio 01/30/09, 04:53 PM EST
It is really embarrassing for liberals that so few have responded here.

The reason: They know that the DCCC is royally screwing up on this one. Who in their right mind, after all, would be in favor of the state restricting the free-speech rights of private citizens?

This begs the question: Are there any liberals here in their right mind?

Because I’ve noticed that the few who have responded here have actually spoken favorably of the DCCC’s position. Ha, what an indefensible position to take!

I, as a conservative, do not tell people to shut up. I tell them how they are wrong, and then they shut up on their own. Liberals, on the other hand, would rather eliminate the competition rather than engage the actual issues.

Down with liberalism and the psuedo-conservative republicans that mimic them. I hope they fail, every bit as much as they hope conservatism fails.

Posted by Brandon in PA 01/30/09, 04:57 PM EST
Hilarious that the Democrats are being told how we all really feel!!!! You are all Communists, Fascists, Nazis, for trying to stifle freedom of speech. Rush is absolutely right! I do hope and pray that Obama will fail in every left-wing, nut-job thing he tries to do. Giving money to people who don’t work is insane. We tried this under LBJ and it took years to get it corrected! It doesn’t work, Democrats. Please start using some common sense. And, if you can’t find some to use, listen to Rush and do what he says!!!

Posted by JLen 01/30/09, 05:03 PM EST
so bailing out the banks not pork there been nanny state for the rich for last 12 years they get pork and the rest of us have to pay for it now rest of us get some relief and make the rich pay for it giving money to the poor and middle class to spend will get the economy going but give to the rich they just hoard it and dont spend it

Posted by steve 01/30/09, 05:06 PM EST
Rush, Sean, Bill, Glenn have the economy of United States Of America in their best interest. These guy’s want what is best for the citizens of our great country unlike Obama & his band of socialist who want to drag us down into being another 3rd world nation. I was a registered Democrat until I heard Clintons first campaign speech. I realized I was a conservative especially after hearing Rush for the first time. Anyone who will give us (the citizens of the US) the news that we cannot get from the liberal news media needs to KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.


Posted by Clyde Akers in Gulf of Mexico 01/30/09, 05:08 PM EST
You are all Communists, Fascists, Nazis, that republican
trickle down does not work the government just went in to debt it took president clinton to get out debt and nopw bush spent trillion we have debt up to ears now we have president obama and the democrats to fix the mess again

Posted by steve 01/30/09, 05:10 PM EST
Rush, Sean, Bill, Glenn have the economy of United States Of America
that bull shit the economy they care about is there own pocket book they help cause the mess in the first place

Posted by steve 01/30/09, 05:12 PM EST
Almost every liberal comment on this blog and the other two on this site has been made by people that think with their emotions rather than their brains—just like they vote. Post #173 is a very good example. Just rants and name calling. You’d think there would be ONE out there that could use a little intelligence in debating.

This blog and the others just cements what I’ve always known: the Democrat party has always been the party of hate and venom spewing.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/30/09, 05:13 PM EST
Steve, Posts 180 & 182: are you capable of writing a coherent sentence?

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/30/09, 05:14 PM EST
Dear DCCC,

I am a registered Republican who did not vote for Mr. Obama in the last election, but I try to view all Democrats--President Obama included--as fellow Americans who love this country as much as I do. As such, I am baffled by many of the policies and laws you propose or vote for which have been tried in the past--either by our nation or others--but failed or are failing miserably.

Santayana said, “Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.” Cicero stated it this way, “History is indeed the witness of the times, the light of truth.” In the light of the failure of Roosevelt’s “New Deal” to bring the U.S. out of recession/depression (indeed, Roosevelt’s agenda only made things worse; we recovered only because of the outbreak of WW II), why, then, does any politician--Democrat or Republican--insist on repeating his mistakes by thinking we can spend our way out of our current situation? That’s what Mr. Limbaugh was referring to when he said he hoped President Obama failed...and you know it.

That’s the shameful part of your current action against Limbaugh. You’re lying about his statements and, in the process, trying to silence opposition to your political agenda. Under our wonderful constitution, you have every right to your ideas and politics, but no right whatsoever to silence opposition to them.

I hope President Obama becomes one of the greatest presidents our country has ever had. Why? Because, if he does, our country will prosper and we will be more secure. If he insists on proposing or supporting policies such as the current “Stimulus Package,” however--laden with pork and non-stimulus items, as it is--I’m afraid he’ll never make it to that lofty plateau.

Mr. Obama and Democrats did a masterful job in the recent election blaming former Pres. Bush and Republicans for the current economic situation. But I trust we won’t forget that, for 7½ out of the 8 years of Mr. Bush’s presidency, our economy thrived. The cause/s for the collapse are debatable (I believe both parties are to blame), but if you want to try something that would actually stimulate the economy and not merely reward your supporters, how about making Mr. Bush’s tax cuts permanent or instituting other cuts? That’s a policy that has always worked in the past (assuming government spending doesn’t increase--check the history), a fact recognized by even John F. Kennedy, one of your hallowed own.

Posted by Alex in Colorado Springs 01/30/09, 05:14 PM EST
Steve in 180 and 182 votes like he writes. He IS the Democrat Party—God help us all.

Posted by Mark Leher 01/30/09, 05:17 PM EST
Last time I check this was still America! Everyone and Anyone is encourage to have their own opinion and think for themselves. That includes Rush! I personally think it’s great that he doesn’t follow the crowd of yes men. Shakes things up a bit. Freedom of Speech is still his right as well as every American. I will fight to protect his as I would mine.

Posted by pBaljian in Ontario CA 01/30/09, 05:18 PM EST
To the DCCC, Why are you letting all of these horrible comments by such stupid people stay on this pages and other pages on the site. It doesn’t look very good when someone comes on here.

I am shocked by the hatred that I read on these pages towards the Democratic party. They call us dumb and stupid and so on, when their comments show a complete lack of knowledge on many issues. To the point that it is frightening.

This site is not very inspiring and as a Democrat I hoped it would be.

I think you should erase all of the nasty comments. These people they have their own web pages or public pages they can go to, to spread their nastiness and hatred. Why give them a voice on this page??

Posted by Nancy in Arizona 01/30/09, 05:19 PM EST
Keep it up Rush! You just might tip the balance to help us save America.

Posted by Jason ( www ) 01/30/09, 05:21 PM EST
Yes, Nancy, by all means erase them—another Democrat that wants to stifle free speech.

Please be specific: “what comments show a complete lack of knowledge on many issues”?

Or maybe you are referring to post 180 or 182?

I think he’s your guy.

And, Nancy? We’re here to stay.

Posted by Mark Leher 01/30/09, 05:22 PM EST
Nancy in AZ, if you look, there is a much higher percentage of “hatred and nastiness” coming from your side (the liberal side). Seems all you people know is to call someone a moron, hate monger, racist, etc.

Go ahead—read the ENTIRE blog and see what I mean. Also, check out the other two blogs on this website.

Posted by Jack Gray 01/30/09, 05:26 PM EST
You know what’s pathetic about people like Nancy in #189? They’d rather keep their head in the sand and never hear anything that might actually cause them to think—cause them, maybe, to re-think their stance. That’s the easy way out. Just hang out with like-minded people who want challenge you and make you actually come up with some facts to support your positions. It’s very sad there are so many uneducated people in this country that vote. And I’m not talking about school education—I’m talking about educating yourself on the issues and not have so much blindness that you refuse to look beyond your area of comfort.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/30/09, 05:32 PM EST
the country and society is circling the fucking toilet and all these idiots can think about doing is starting a petition to silence someone free speech? WTF is wrong with them?

Posted by Tim in the US of A 01/30/09, 05:39 PM EST
Keep listening to Rush,he states the truth and backs it up with facts.He speaks for Americans.
Thanks Rush

Posted by Beten Hayes 01/30/09, 05:44 PM EST
Hey Nancy, they brought this on themselves by quoting Rush with an out of context comment in order to attack him for exercising his constitutional right to free speech.

You’re just another dem that seems to have a problem with free speech. That’s just tough. If you don’t like it then don’t read it.

You want to talk about a lack of knowledge on issues and stupidity. Watch this video. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re in it.

Posted by GOF 01/30/09, 05:47 PM EST
My outrage is at the DCCC. not Rush. The DCCC doesn’t have the balls to air the complete statement, you would rather hide the true. I pray the American people wake up soon and see the trickery, deception, and/or ignorance of Nancy P., Harry R. and the DCCC

Posted by Tim Mays 01/30/09, 05:47 PM EST
In reference to post #185 if there was a way to have an intelligent discussion with a Republican I would be more than happy to do so. It seems that maybe you have not read most of the comments made on this subject by your fellow Rush supporters, talk about emotional responses and name calling there appears to be an overabundance of it on your side of the fence, so maybe you should go back and reread the posts on here very slowly so you can comprehend them.

Posted by Dennis in Florida 01/30/09, 05:50 PM EST
rush dont tell the truth is lies all the time when some one calls him up to tell the truth he cut them off
wake up Stephanie the republican party has always been the party of hate and venom spewing. not the democratice party
every election the republican try to stop black minority the poor from voting down south does that sound like just action

Posted by steve 01/30/09, 05:52 PM EST
Thank God for Rush. I, too, hope Obama’s policies fail - just like the Liberals in this country opposed EVERYTHING Bush did for the past 8 years. How does it feel???

Posted by Jackie in Maryland 01/30/09, 05:54 PM EST

Begin the day with a friendly voice,
A companion, unobtrusive
Plays the song that’s so elusive
And the magic music makes your morning mood.

Off on your way, hit the open road,
There is magic at your fingers
For the Spirit ever lingers,
Undemanding contact in your happy solitude.

Invisible airwaves crackle with life
Bright antenna bristle with the energy
Emotional feedback on a timeless wavelength
Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free

All this machinery making modern music
Can still be open-hearted.
Not so coldly charted, it’s really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah, your honesty.

One likes to believe in the freedom of music,
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity.

Invisible airwaves crackle with life
Bright antenna bristle with the energy
Emotional feedback on a timeless wavelength
Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free

For the words of the profits were written on the studio wall,
Concert hall
And echoes with the sounds of salesmen.
Of salesmen.
Of salesmen.

Oh Wait, not that Rush? Oh sorry, still he’s right though.

Posted by Frenchy 01/30/09, 05:55 PM EST
Right. I came here for intelligent discussion. HA! The only reason I’m here is to annoy the living crap out of you like the DCCC annoys the crap out of me. It’s a bipartisan thing, you wouldn’t understand.

Posted by Jay in not east St Louis 01/30/09, 06:01 PM EST
Nancy dear, the one positive thing I can say about this DCCC website is that they haven’t (yet) erased the views expressed here of which the majority are contrary to its intended purpose of shutting people up. That is showing some guts when you can be honest even though you are taking a well deserved pummeling. Or maybe somebody should go check on the welfare of the webmaster, he may have hurt himself.

Posted by littlebuddie 01/30/09, 06:08 PM EST
GREAT JOB DCCC! You really showed that darned Rush! This is really working! He attacked so you’re attacking back. I bet he really wishes he wouldn’t have tangled with you guys!

What a bunch of idiots.

Posted by Wayne in Nebraska 01/30/09, 06:09 PM EST
The DCCC needs to STOP attacking Rush! Are we a country that no longer allows freedom of speech? Stop abusing your power mainstream media! Mr. Rush Limbaugh you are our voice. GOD BLESS YOU!!! EVERYONE KEEP CONSERVATISM ALIVE. VIVA LA REAGAN REVOLUCION!!!

Posted by Maria Maestas in NM 01/30/09, 06:16 PM EST

Have any proof? I say that it’s southern democrats that have been the racists throughout our history. Unlike you, I will submit proof.

How about a little history lesson?

Do you know what Jim Crow laws were? They were laws enacted to keep the black man down. Were they enacted by southern democrats or southern republicans? I’m sure you will think it was republicans. Wrong. It was southern democrats.

Was it a southern republican or southern democrat that, when elected president, introduced segregation in Federal offices. Wrong. It was Woodrow Wilson. A southern democrat.

Was it southern democrats or southern republicans that filibustered the Civil Rights act? Wrong again. It was southern democrats.

“We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our Southern states.” Richard Russell (D-GA)

Posted by GOF 01/30/09, 06:28 PM EST
Bring it on Rush! Thank God for you! And yes, I said GOD!!! You are the only light in a sea of darkness.

Posted by kristina in Boston, MA 01/30/09, 06:46 PM EST
It is so encouraging to see that there are still free-thinking people in what is rapidly heading toward the United Socialist States of America. We, the people, will do all we can to fight the fiscal insanity taking place in the US government. Your actions are tanking our economy, and I too pray the President Obama’s agenda falls on its collective face. God bless you, Rush!!!! Keep fighting.

Posted by Susan Hand in Marion, MI 01/30/09, 07:13 PM EST
This is cracking me up! Way to go Free Thinkers! The DCCC website has turned into a conservative blog.

Kiss our dissenting a$$#$ Obama!

Posted by proud american in the most corrupt state in the Union 01/30/09, 07:15 PM EST
President Bush is gone, so, what does a bds sufferer do? LOL… The difference is that unlike President Bush, Rush will respond and respond hard. He can, has, is and will. Well, for the simple minded dccc folks, they only have to change one letter, the “B” to an “R”. Too bad they don’t put the same effort into calling for a sane stimulus plan. Instead, we get a BS whining petition and support for the next great American rip off.

Posted by Bob Slobbin 01/30/09, 07:31 PM EST
How can one explain the response of the Democratic party to Rush except that they have no confidence that their plan will prove Rush wrong?

The strength of their protest proves the weakness of their ideas.

Posted by Johnson 01/30/09, 07:32 PM EST
Rush, you are a great American!

The Democrats pulled the wool over the voters’ eyes last year. Now people are starting to wake up. They are trying to put the focus on YOU, so they can divert attention while they turn the US into a socialist country and take people’s freedoms away - like the right to free speech and the right to keep your medical records private.

Posted by malka in USA 01/30/09, 08:07 PM EST
It is a shame to see a political party attacking someone’s right to free speech.

Shame on Barack Obama and the Democrats for this ridiculous campaign. Try to do the country’s work, not run with your ideological campaign.

This type of garbage makes you worse than Rush Limbaugh.


Posted by Roy in Huntington Beach, CA 01/30/09, 08:08 PM EST
Thank you for this opportunity to express my APPRECIATION for the Dr. of Democracy Rush Limbaugh!!!

Posted by Plumber Joe 01/30/09, 08:24 PM EST
Quoting Nancy:"To the DCCC, Why are you letting all of these horrible comments by such stupid people stay on this pages and other pages on the site.”

If by stupid, you mean informed Then I guess, but from what I see after reading 214 comments that the only “"horrible", personal attacks have come from the half dozen or so liberals that have joined the discussion.

“It doesn’t look very good when someone comes on here.”

No, it doesn’t, does it?

“I am shocked by the hatred that I read on these pages towards the Democratic party.”

You mistake dissent with hatred. Conservatives do not hate liberals. We pity them.

“They call us dumb and stupid and so on, when their comments show a complete lack of knowledge on many issues. To the point that it is frightening.”

Perhaps some have resorted to words like dumb and stupid, but that’s only because after forming an informed opinion we have come to that conclusion. It is not a lack of knowledge that shapes our opinions. Out opinions are formed after listening to many sources, reading many opinions and enduring a lot of liberal propaganda. We are informed! And a lot better informed than those who only avail themselves of media that share their liberal views.

“This site is not very inspiring and as a Democrat I hoped it would be.”

It’s hard to be inspired by liberals, Nancy. I haven’t been since Carter. (So sorry, fellow Conservatives, but I thought an honest man might make a good President)

“I think you should erase all of the nasty comments.”

Typical liberal mentality! Censor dissent.

“These people they have their own web pages or public pages they can go to, to spread their nastiness and hatred. Why give them a voice on this page??”

Have you ever read the First amendment, Nancy? We do have our Conservative sites that we can comment on. You are welcome to join debate there as well and I assure you, your comments will not be censored.

Posted by Ernie in Coconut Creek, FL 01/30/09, 08:52 PM EST
In Russia we fix Mr Rush the Russian way… with bullet to the head from pistol with silencer during daylight. This also good way for to serve as warning for others not to cross the Party.

Posted by Valdimire Putin in Moscow 01/30/09, 08:54 PM EST
Steve (#182) you are wrong. Bill Clinton did not “get out debt [sic]” or reduce it, in fact he increased it. Balanced budget does not mean what you think it does.

Sweet run-on sentence though.

Posted by Mark in USA 01/30/09, 08:54 PM EST
Where can one read the petitions they are asking people to sign?

Posted by Mark in USA 01/30/09, 08:57 PM EST
Mark, go to the top of this page—on the right—and click on the blog that starts “Stand Strong Against Rush Limbaugh”.

But be warned—they mislead you into thinking that your comments supporting Rush are going to him but they are lying, as usual, and just giving numbers on how many responded; and not that most responses were Pro Rush.

Rush has a reverse petition on his website going to the DCCC.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/30/09, 09:15 PM EST
I came to the United States from the USSR in 1989. I have seen the future Obama promises us and I pray to God every day that Obama and his ilk fail miserably in their attempt to ruin this great country. I have nowhere left to run if they succeed. Thank you for all your work, Rush!

Posted by Ilya in Washington DC 01/30/09, 09:19 PM EST
Mark, this is the petition and you just ‘signed it’. So I am guessing there are going to be a lot of Rush Limbaugh supporters ‘signatures’ on a anti-Rush Limbaugh ‘petition’ which is designed so that the DCCC can use it to their advantage and it will be submitted with none of the messages included. In other words, DCCC may use our participation in this discussion whether we agree with it or not to their advantage as a tool against free speech.

Posted by littlebuddie 01/30/09, 09:26 PM EST
Publish the NAMES publish the names and comments. If this was such a success.

Posted by Buzz Bee in Colorado 01/30/09, 09:28 PM EST
The President is proving to be not only ignorant but even worse, terribly arrogant. He demeans the Office to which he was elected by attacking a private US Citizen. The informed, thinking people are watching and will not lay down and quit. This is not the Third Reich.

Posted by Bart in Pocatello, Idaho 01/30/09, 09:47 PM EST
littlebuddie, this is NOT the petition—you have to click on link to go to the petition.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/30/09, 09:48 PM EST
I would oppose any Republican attempt to stifle free speech with the same message:

“The constitutional right of free speech has been declared to be the same in peace and war. In peace, too, men may differ widely as to what loyalty to our country demands, and an intolerant majority, swayed by passion or by fear, may be prone in the future, as it has been in the past, to stamp as disloyal opinions with which it disagrees.”
Justice Louis D. Brandeis
Source: Schaefer v. U. S., 1920

Posted by Mark Steingart ( www ) 01/30/09, 10:07 PM EST
God Bless you Rush and everything you do for our great country. I “hope” you will help us defeat Obama’s socialist/Marxist agenda! Now that would be “change” we could believe in.

Posted by Roy Edwards in Kansas 01/30/09, 10:10 PM EST
Those of you that believe as I do that the DCCC will only submit names without comments to Rush should CC your comments to Mr. Limbaugh at With any luck, Rush will spend some time on this on Monday.

Posted by Ernie in Coconut Creek, FL 01/30/09, 10:15 PM EST
Ernie, Rush is on vacation next week.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/30/09, 10:29 PM EST
Stephanie, thanks for the correction. I think when you respond and click, you’ve just ‘signed in favor’ of the petition whether you agree with it or not.

Posted by littlebuddie 01/30/09, 10:32 PM EST
It takes you to a page to fill out your name, address, etc., then you can put your comments to Rush. I started to do it but stopped because I think all they will send are the bad ones from the hate-filled Democrats (I love to call them that—that’s all they ever call us).

The DCCC is full of lies - look at that other blog about the poll numbers and swing voters. Total lies.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/30/09, 10:35 PM EST
Rush, you point to the truth. Thank you Lord for men and women that courageously show America that suppression of truth is leading us on a path to Marxism. Rush, be of good cheer.

Posted by cheri lee in chapel hill, nc 01/30/09, 10:49 PM EST
This is so awesome. I love this new conservative corner of the web. [Please note use of punctuation] I have read all of the comments here and the other blogs on DCCC, and have reached an inescapable conclusion. [Please note further punctuation preceded by full complete sentences]

Liberals are so absorbed by passion, that they can’t think. They can’t form complete sentences, or complete arguments, because their emotions cloud their minds. When directly challenged, most of them disappear, and the others quickly digress into name calling, rather than a discussion of the current topic.

I wonder what it’s like to be so enraged when confronted with the truth, after being lied to for so long, and not being able to tell the difference.

Posted by Chris D in CA 01/30/09, 10:57 PM EST
After years of bashing President Bush, this petition is laughable. Get over yourselves.

Posted by Deb in New York 01/30/09, 10:58 PM EST
This site kind of reminds me of the NAZI SS or the KGB.Those who do not go along with the GREAT ALMIGHTY OBMESSIAH’S wonderful, miraculous, commie, socialistic plans to control every aspect of our lives,must be eliminated! Rush is right!We must not want or allow this to happen to the USA if this is what Obama plans for us.It didnt work for Hitler or Stalin or any other totalitarian goverment and will not work here!

Posted by Roger in NC 01/30/09, 11:06 PM EST
DCCC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, NYT, WP, TabloidTV, Hollywood, congress and barack hussein obama ATTACKED!!!
They attacked all people of faith and traditional values. They attacked capitalism and free enterprise while trying to shift blame from themselves. They attacked Bush unceasingly during the past eight years and tried to orchestrate his failure time and again.They declared war on the American people and their first casualties are the economy and our unborn brothers and sisters.
As for Rush, how can they, with so much power, be threatened by a lone voice in the minority? I know why and so do they.

Posted by Jim68 01/30/09, 11:21 PM EST
My freedom of speech is through Rush Limbaugh. My wishes for Rush is longevity because America needs him for many, many years. Take care of yourself Rush, we love you.
Posted by: rushisright

Posted by Carole in Marion, AR 01/30/09, 11:40 PM EST
Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

Sir Winston Churchill, Speech, 1941, Harrow School

Churchill said it best—Fight on, Rush! We love you!

Posted by iamfelix 01/30/09, 11:57 PM EST
Where is Osama Obama’s fake Hawaiian certificate of birth? Where is his real Kenyan birth certificate? You media creeps don’t even bother to see if he is a natural born citizen. You have to be natural born to qualify to be president. He is hiding it. You worried if Bush missed 2 weeks in the reserve, but you don’t even bother to see if his mother was too young when she left America and went to Kenya to bith the marxist to give him legitimacy as an American. He has a british citizenship because his dad was Kenyan. I hope he fails in all his policies too. The marxist is not even a natural born citizen. He is as illegitimate as any thing he signs. His first tv interview was with an arab tv station. He is as muslim as Osama is. You will wish you had paid attention when he comes after your wallet. Dumb bells.

Posted by Herb Salsibury in Washington 01/31/09, 12:11 AM EST
I haven’t listened to Rush in years, mostly because my schedule prevented me from doing so.

I’m completely flabbergasted that ANYONE in the United States would even consider trying to silence someone because they said something that the political leaders didn’t like.

If Democrats (or left-wing folk, anyway) don’t want to hear Rush tell his views, what’s wrong with changing the channel? It’s not like anyone has a gun to your head, forcing you to listen…

Besides: nobody tried this sort of thing on Air America, when they went off on a tirade against President Bush. The cash flow (that AA couldn’t get) saw to that. I don’t see Rush having a lot of cash issues. I wonder why that might be? Oh, right: Unlike AA, Rush is *popular*!

Posted by Bill Smith in Fall River, MA 01/31/09, 12:11 AM EST
Whats outrageous is that the American Public was fooled into voting for OBAMA. The Liberal media shout be tried for treason.

Posted by MICHAEL HUBBARD in Ca 01/31/09, 12:26 AM EST
Democrats should be ashamed.


Mega Dittos !! Rush Rocks !!


Posted by Brently in Colorado 01/31/09, 01:49 AM EST
Rush does want Obama to succed, but only if it is for the postive action for the United States, not for the Obama big head. I swear everyday like a helium ballon, Obama’s head is swelling. I did not vote for the President, but when he won, I will give him a chance to be my President, he is slowly slipping down the hill everyone put him on. The Stimulus package is nothing but Demacratic overspending for items and programs that they wanted in place for years. I can’t see many stimulis job packages to help all the American Citizens that have been laid off. Please Obama, walk down the hill with us, and don’t shove us just to be KING OF THE MOUNTAIN ! Remember the citizens put you up there, to work with us as you said. Funny how fame CHANGED OBAMA. Is this the change he was referring to?

Posted by Di 01/31/09, 01:53 AM EST
LOL, you people really screwed the pooch on this one. I thought I’d never see the day when I went to a lefty website like this one to get a breath of fresh air. I am very proud of my fellow Americans who have come together in large numbers to tell you people what the REAL America thinks.

Like Obama and his record sales of guns, you have managed to rally the militia like no one other enemy has since Lexington and Concord. Yes I said enemy. Socialists like you are who I was thinking of when I raised my right hand and promised to defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. So congrats for another fine job from the left.

Posted by Ralph Warner in Rancho Cucamonga, Ca 01/31/09, 03:14 AM EST
We are not all drinking the Kool Aid.Look at the treatment of President Bush by you people .Have you no shame?
Apparently not.
Closet Marxists you caused the recession with Frank Dodd and Barney Frank and your minnions at Acorn. You suck up to unions and other bottom feeders who are ruining our great country.

Hail PORKULA ..... four more years.....till next election

Posted by Socialist redux 01/31/09, 07:23 AM EST
I don’t recall anyone being this outraged when President Bush was under attack—as, for example, when Dick Gephardt referred to him as a “miserable failure.” Leave Limbaugh alone—he has a right to free speech, and I for one don’t favor endangering the First Amendment so that the party in power, whatever that may be, can silence its most outspoken or powerful critics.

Posted by Marcia 01/31/09, 07:56 AM EST
We, as Americans, must stand against the hiring of criminals to run Obama’s cabinet, his arrogance in telling us ONLY goverment can save us, his ugly mean character showing clearly when he attacks you, Rush, his efforts to ram thru quickly a “stimulous” package that would bankrupt America. No wonder he had is birth records seald. It might prove that Obama really isn’t an American thereby providing reason for his destructive bent.

Posted by Linda in Michigan 01/31/09, 07:57 AM EST
Keep up the good work Rush. Continue to expose the Democrats & most Republicans for the frauds that they really are. I am tired of both parties always proposing and implementing more government as the solution to our problems. Not only do we need less government in our lives but also a return to a sound money standard!

Posted by thenaughto in Ohio 01/31/09, 08:51 AM EST
Rush is on target, he did not attack. I am sorry The DCCC doesn’t like hearing the truth.

Posted by Sharon P 01/31/09, 09:08 AM EST
I find it amazing people that do not listen to Rush get so outraged with snippets of what he says. Mostly taken out of context. Rush presented a bipartisan plan to get this country moving. Will President Obama act in a bipartisan manner and seriously consider the offer or will he wish the plan fails.

Where was the outrage when democrats did everything the could do to see the President Bush failed.

Posted by Gary 01/31/09, 09:22 AM EST
I truly love how the Ditto heads have “rushed” to the defense of The Fat One! It is obvious you were encouraged to post here by Rush himself or by some online campaign. BIG DEAL. Do you know what a small percent of the populace you are? Your opinions are valid but maybe if you actually woke up and thought for yourselves you could form an insightful reasoned argument. Do you actually believe Mr Rush Limbaugh cares about you in the least? He cares about his ratings and his wealth. Do you think he cares about the millions losing their jobs every day? He and you and I for that matter have a right to our opinions and nobody here has ever said otherwise. Please keep watching Rush, buying his books, sending him money but remember when you are out of work and broke that he could care less. He’ll be just fine in his mansion in south FL and you’ll be starving! The Zero republicans really showed how much they care about you and the middle class in this country as they have been doing for the last 20 years or more.

Posted by Brent 01/31/09, 09:40 AM EST

One of the silliest acts in modern time was to cross sabers with Limbaugh. You only call out someone you think is your equal or better.

Posted by RL Jones 01/31/09, 09:47 AM EST
Nothing like silencing the American people. Time for ACORN to rule. How dare Americans support free speech. Take their guns and shut them up. Let Lenin and Hitler rule forever.

Posted by bill haines 01/31/09, 09:58 AM EST

Posted by MIDNITE EXPRESS ( www ) 01/31/09, 10:10 AM EST
Perhaps we should not only call for the killing of this anti free speech petition, but, should also start bombarding the mainstream media for more accurate reporting of such things.
Apparently they fail to realize their tanking numbers aren’t the result of disinterested people, but the direct result of their blatant favoritism, and slant towards the socialist agenda.
Even Fox is slightly biased towards the left, but, their reporting is much more honest than any of the others.
Too show their slant towards the left, notice that they failed to comment on the bipartisan vote against the economic stimulus package. How many Dems voted against that bill? Was it ten, or eleven?
The fact that Nancy the Nazi couldn’t hold her party together shows that this bill is a gigantic piece of trash, and, that the American people know it.
Do we want help? Yes. But not help that only lines the pockets of special interests, and partisan hacks. And, not help that won’t hit the streets, except marginally, until 2010 or 11. And that comes from the congressional budget office. A supposedly bipartisan office, but, we all know that the controlling party anywhere in Washington right now is the Democrats.
Sorry, I used to be a card carrying Dem, running Republican campaigners off my porch like mongrel currs.
But the actions of the likes of “Nancy the Nazi”, “Harry the Scumbag”, “Schmucky Chewmore” and others of their ilk, have seriously alienated me from the “Peoples Party”.
I no longer perceive the Dems as the peoples party. I have issues with the “Elephants” as well. But, until we can sweep all the rats out of D.C. I find myself voting more and more Re-pubic-lan, or third party.
I can no longer in conscious vote for the peoples socialist party of the United States(Read that Democrats)

Posted by Bert in Kentucky 01/31/09, 10:18 AM EST
limbaugh has exposed the plain stupidity of illegal alien elect hussein obama & the left’s socialist views. the US of A has fought two wars (korea & viet nam) to stop this kind of government from existing on our globe we live on due to the fact that is an evil system that deprives hardworking citizens of much of what they earn. what a shame our great nation did not elect a true american patriot as president (dick cheney or john bolton or j c watts or tom tacredo to name a few).

Posted by me myself in san antonio 01/31/09, 10:38 AM EST
The best way for Americe to succeed is for Obamas Agenda to Fail!

Posted by tobyB 01/31/09, 11:05 AM EST
It appears that Nancy & Barry want to turn this country into the People’s Republic of America. I hope he fails!

Posted by Ed Hoppe in Pennsylvania 01/31/09, 11:08 AM EST
hahahahaha ... you dems cant even control your own page.

Posted by R 01/31/09, 11:12 AM EST
To Brent in post 250: I wasn’t encourage to post here by Rush. I heard the news, was outraged that anyone in government would attempt to silence a private citizen. Was outraged that the First Amendment would be treated so cavalierly.

As far as being a “small percent of the populace” well, if that’s so, then why are they trying to silence Rush? Your statement holds no water.

I doubt Rush cares about me personally, since he doesn’t know me, but if you got your head out of your rear long enough to listen—just listen the entire three hours on one day (since you have such a strong opinion in this you might want to back it up with some research. And don’t come back and say you listen to him because your statements tell otherwise).

You say “continue to watch Rush”—Brent his show hasn’t been on television in years.

So, you are for silencing people’s free speech, Brent? Because that’s what this is about.

And, just a little advice: you lose your argument right off the bat when you attack personally (i.e. The Fat One). I doubt you look like Brad Pitt, do you Brent?

Posted by Jack Gray 01/31/09, 11:34 AM EST
Thank God for Rush!!!!! I am so tired of our politicians running their own agenda and forgetting the voices of the American people as if we have nothing to say. You DemoBrats are the literal sheep of our nation. In their thinking???, it’s much easier to be led than to figure things out on their own. No one wants our leaders and nation to fail, but, the direction they are taking is the fastest way for us to go down the tubes. Thank you, Rush!!!

Posted by Cyndra in Shreveport, LA 01/31/09, 11:35 AM EST
I didn’t finish my point in the above post, Brent.

If you got your head out of your rear long enough to listen—just listen the entire three hours on one day (since you have such a strong opinion in this you might want to back it up with some research. And don’t come back and say you listen to him because your statements tell otherwise), then you would see that Rush does, indeed, care about the country—he believes in the First Amendment, the Constitution, and the powers outlined within.

Quit drinking the Kool-Aid, Brent, and get off your lazy duff and actually educate yourself. You might be surprised at what even you can learn.

Posted by Jack Gray 01/31/09, 11:42 AM EST
Thank you Rush. I served in two different branches of the US military (Army and USMC) to defend your Constitutional right to say what you think and my right to listen. I also defended the rights of those who don’t want to listen to change the channel. What I did not defend is someone who is not a “natural born citizen” usurping the Constitution to become President. Is there any way you can address that situation? Either way, keep up the good work!!!

Posted by Tony in Illinois 01/31/09, 12:21 PM EST
Support free speech no matter what party you are! I’m not a republican, I’m an American! We’re all Americans!

It’s time to throw out the republicans and democrats that are bringing this country down and find some intelligence out there in a world of suits and hair.

Posted by Ben 01/31/09, 12:34 PM EST
Democrats are chickens (for lack of a better word) and want to silence any opposing voices because they know that people like Rush peel off the sugar coated layer of Obama’s plans and reveal the ugly truth. Just remember, God is in control and evil will not win!

Posted by Amber 01/31/09, 12:52 PM EST
Driving to estimate some sheet metal work to be done in Los Angeles Ca in 1989 I heard RUSH on the radio. I began to listen - is this some type of a spoof or skit on general media in the USA ? This has been the way I’ve felt about the media always - fake slanted BULL SKIT.
Well I listened and I THOUGHT and I THOUGHT and I laughed and laughed and now it’s 20 years later and still listening still thinking and still laughing except when I need a really good laugh you’ve got to love CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, NPR, ABC, Hollywood big mouths, Etc…..
Thanks RUSH for making us use both sides of our brains in the arena of life.
The left will never have a “Rush” of their own because they already have thousands and this keeps Our RUSH unique.
If money equals power and freedom how come President Obama wants so much of mine?
As for this silly petition well it’s silly because it’s a lie – what would you expect from CNN ?
Go forth and use your whole brain thanks to RUSH !!!!

Posted by Jeff Young 01/31/09, 01:18 PM EST
Are you effen kidding me?! If Obama takes our country down a socialist nationalized road I hope he fails too. Kruschev said the left would bury us without a single shot. Congratulations on making yourselves pawns of Communism. When will you wake up?! By the way, where is Obama’s birth certificate? Probably the same place your balls are. If you don’t like what Rush says start your own talk show! Oh, I forgot, you did and it fell flat on it’s face! Now that’t the kind of failure I can applaud.

Posted by Nathaniel Taggart 01/31/09, 01:26 PM EST
You better put me on the list of people to ban from exercising free speech as well. Is there still a pulse in the Constitution? Don’t stop Rush!

Posted by Steve Harriman in Indiana 01/31/09, 01:30 PM EST
Great job Rush! Keep up the fight!

I submitted my thoughts to the DCCC site. Now I just wish someone would organize a pro-Rush petition!

Posted by Sapo in Louisiana 01/31/09, 01:39 PM EST
Hey you guys, (and gals), O’Samabama has been great for the economy so lighten up!

Gun sales are through the roof!

Way to go Hussein!

Posted by J. Hilligan in Peoples Republic of Colorado 01/31/09, 01:44 PM EST
Oh, and just in case anyone didn’t know Rule 12 of the Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals:

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

WTF? This guy was a “Community” (more like Communist) organizer. And the DNC is using his tactics? Pretty scary…

Posted by Sapo in Louisiana 01/31/09, 01:46 PM EST
Sapo in Louisiana: Rush has a reverse petition. Go here: It’s in the middle of the page - center column

Click on this Link in that center column: • Reverse Petition: Tell the DCCC It’s Time to Stop Lying

Posted by Jack Gray 01/31/09, 01:55 PM EST
Viva La Rush!!

Posted by jackie 01/31/09, 02:25 PM EST
“We reserve the right to remove blog comments.”

I wonder when they’re going to start censoring the pro-Rush comments? Or have they already? We already know what they think of the 1st Amendment.

Go Rush!

Posted by Haynonnymoose in New York 01/31/09, 03:22 PM EST
Hey - you know who else tried to silence dissenters?

Pol Pot

Good company!

Posted by Citizen 01/31/09, 04:28 PM EST
If you are going to criticize Rush Limbaugh, at least do in such a manner as your assertions are right and supportable.

I heard him. live, say what you allege in its full context. You are presenting it way out of context.

I do hope Obama and the Democrats in Congress fail when trying to pass legislation that is bad for America, such as the stimulus package. If Obama succeeds in his policies, America fails.

Rush is not so popular because he tells simple minds what to believe. He is so popular because he reflects, in an entertaining manner, what millions upon millions of thinking Americans already believe. Conservatives enjoy hearing their existing points of view reflected, Just like Democrats enjoy hearing and reading their points of view in places like Air America, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NY Times, Newsweek, Time, etc.

Conservatives are those Americans who still adhere to the traditional American culture that goes all the way back to the early 18th century’s 1st Great Awakening. With every generation, we adopt the implementation of those core principles to the current economic, social, and political realities. The principles, however, don’t change. They were right to start with, and will always be right.

For the record, it was not Clinton that improved the economy. During his 2 years with a Democrat Congress, the economy got worse. It only improved because of the 1994 Republican Congress. Their work, to which Clinton reluctantly assented, improved the economy. Just because Clinton crows loudly does not mean he made the sun rise.

For the record, the economy before the Democrats took over Congress in 2006 was doing quite well, even though the Rockefeller Republicans started spending big earlier. It only went downhill when Bush foolishly assented to the Democrats big spending ways.

The last time we had an economy this bad was the Carter recession, which was much worse.

Posted by Jeff Jones in Waleska, GA USA 01/31/09, 04:49 PM EST
I originally used the Petition website to make my views known. Now that this blog is here I am adding my comments below:

Rush is correct!
As long as President Obama and the liberals/democrats want to grow government, take on powers not ascribed to them, and generally move the country towards socialism, I HOPE THEY FAIL, TOO.
If you want to do something to solve our country’s problems, cut taxes, drill here for oil, and keep your mitts off the economy.
Best regards,
Wally Rice

Posted by Wally Gator Minnesota in Twin Cities, Minnesota 01/31/09, 05:10 PM EST
Rush Limbaugh is totally correct. Obama’s socialist policies should fail. The thing is that they WILL FAIL if they are done as planned. Learn about human history and economics. Socialism is based on nothing more than wishful thinking and incorrect assumptions about human nature.

Posted by I Hate Socialism 01/31/09, 05:13 PM EST
What great comments!! Free speech is alive and well. When the stimulus plan fails and we know it will, Rush can say, “I told you so” The Liberals won’t be able to blame the Republicans in Congress because they’re not going for it, either. Thanks Rush. We love you.

Posted by Vickie Riley in West Virginia 01/31/09, 05:47 PM EST
Let this be a lesson to the DCCC and others about trying to silence free speech. God bless you, Rush. Keep up the good work!

Posted by Paul in Deep in the bowels of the hidden bunker, somewhere ( www ) 01/31/09, 05:53 PM EST

Posted by tomtom in LA 01/31/09, 05:58 PM EST
I am really surprised this is all still up here.. Normally the left, when something doesn’t normally go to their plan, quickly cover up and delete evidence to wipe all the pie off their faces. This is proof right here, by all of the support for Rush, that this totally backfired. I predict this will all be deleted soon and no one will even mention that it backfired. It will be hush hush and then they’ll try something else. You can bet they won’t mention the Rush support given here on CNN or MSNBC or CBS. This is hilarious. I love you Rush!! Keep on educating the folks.

Posted by Carrie Harris 01/31/09, 06:01 PM EST
NEW YORK – Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama’s economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.

Their state treasuries drained by the financial crisis, governors would welcome the money from Capitol Hill, where GOP lawmakers are more skeptical of Obama’s spending priorities.

The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, planned to meet in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state’s share of the package.

Not the darling of the Republican party in Washington to get her share of the Obama Stimulus package, that she and her other Republican governors want passed. Oh wait you better hurry and call Rush and have get them back in his Nazi Goose Stepping line. Shame on them for not consulting him first, how dare they think for themselves that is a violation of all things Rush, no free thinking allowed.

Posted by Dennis in Florida 01/31/09, 06:28 PM EST
The reason why there is little response from Liberals on a website designed by Liberals to ‘stir the pot’ is that deep down they know they can’t deny that the B. Hussein Obama stimulus project and his agendas are bad business to the bone. But as any good weasel knows, the quieter you are the more likely it is that you’ll snag yourself a chicken. Bamma’s handouts are commin’ your way little Liberal, so best stay quiet now lest you bring attention to the hen house.

Posted by littlebuddie 01/31/09, 06:33 PM EST
How can we fool them today? Lying is the operative tool for any Democrat. Trampling on the First Amendment is what liberals love. Where was Obama born. BTW? He’s not a native born citizen, is he? Prove it. Another Jimmy Carter haunts us all, even you. 2009 Jan. 20th, our long national nightmare begins.

Posted by Quesy Infirme in Emerald City, OZ ( www ) 01/31/09, 06:40 PM EST
Although I don’t agree with pretty much ANYTHING our prez has to say so far, or has given his views on....maybe this whole “hope” thing might go over rather well. Apparently, we mainstreamers have not lost the hope that collectively we can stand against this onslaught of socialist diarrhea and reform the solid God Fearing conservative bedrock of our nation into the bastion of freedom and civil liberties it has been. Our government needs to be severely reduced, and our economy needs to be allowed to run it’s natural course...the strong will survive, and the weak will fail then regroup into something stronger..just like they did in the 30’s. Overall, we ALL need to take back our country, not just look evil in the eye and think that “someone else” will take care of it for us. That someone else is you, and me, and anyone left with a conscience. As far as an attack on an individual that disagrees with your opinions, mr wolf? Indeed, it is shameful. But as my legion of comrades would tell you...I will defend to my very death your right to disagree with and have a different opinion than I. Would you?

Posted by Idealist in out there 01/31/09, 06:54 PM EST
Way to keep your eyes on the ball DCCC! The country is mired in an economic crisis and your organization is humping Rush for some media attention. After a historic win, Dem’s immediately resort to small minded, losing tactics. Only Pelosi’s BC gaffe exceeds the arrogance and stupidity of the DCC Rush campaign. Is there any professional oversight of your organization? Rich comedy. Thanks for the laugh. :)

Posted by Mick McConnell in Orange county, NY 01/31/09, 07:02 PM EST
I’d like an answer to a question:

How is it that Bush tries 7 times to INCREASE regulations for Fannie May/Freddie Mac; The democrats, via Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Maxine Waters, deny anything is wrong, defeat these attempts, and even accuse the Republicans of witch hunting; And yet you blame Bush for the crisis because of lack of regulation?

Please explain this to me.

Posted by Chris D in CA 01/31/09, 07:19 PM EST
I, too am so outraged by your brown-shirt tactics to silence the opposition. I have always wondered when the advent of KristallnachtII will appear over the horizon and the jack-booted thugs of this false messiah will grab truth loving patriots to the American Gulags or re-education camps. Thank God that there are so many America loving patriots (incl. me who’s born in the Phil.)to speak out against this monstrosity. I pray to my Jesus Messiah that this man fails in his marxist policies.

Posted by chris can in las vegas 01/31/09, 07:22 PM EST
I can explain it to you, Chris D (post #287). I have yet to meet a Democrat who will take the time to educate themselves. They get their news from the MSM and allow the spoon fed nonsense to be their only source of information. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten into a “debate” with friends and colleagues and when I bring up a salient point they ALWAYS say “I didn’t know that. Wow, Really?”

No, I guess they didn’t—they won’t educate themselves.

Posted by Mark Leher 01/31/09, 07:26 PM EST
The point, if you are interested, is the hope of Limbaugh is that Obama does fail at dragging this country to the Left any further. His hope is for this government to shrink; not expand. That is his current right as a citizen. I know how the freedom of speech is a pesky nusaince to the Democrats and the fairness doctirne is being dusted off to stop political free speech. It’s fine to disagree with this man but your hatred is evil.

Posted by DL Thompsen in USA 01/31/09, 07:28 PM EST
This attempted censorship of Rush is just another move towards the Socialist Government that the Democrats want so much. Love Ya Rush. You just keep driving the Democrats crazy. And for you Pres. Obama..."Zeig Heil!”

Posted by Steven Lewis in The Free United States of America 01/31/09, 07:32 PM EST
Now by which standard shall we judge failure? The Republican standard has been set so very high.. Shall we use Hoover?, Nixon?, Ford?, Saint Reagan?, The BUSHES? Don’t you Republicans worry, The Democrats are once again prepared to save the country from the misdeeds of your Heroes… and of course, you will do your best to get in the way. And the best you can come up with is Limbaugh ...that’s laughable.
Palin & Limbaugh 2012!

Posted by Ralph Demharter in new kensington, pa. 01/31/09, 07:49 PM EST
My husband just finished reading The Diary of Anne Frank last night. He said just reading the last four or five pages sent a chill up his spine because it is eerily similiar to what is going on in this country right now. The liberals screamed “facism” under Bush for eight years, but I don’t think they even know what it truly means.

Hitler came to power the same way. And once he had power, he promised subjugation of “lesser” peoples like Poles, Magyars, Czechs, etc...(think about the sector of society that is going to pay for all of his entitlement programs..what’s the difference?) He practiced genocide which liberals endorse. His autobiography was the English equivalent “My Struggle” (Mein Kampf), Obama’s “The Audacity of Hope”. They’re both narcissists. The people that voted this man into the White House are “one timers” who could give a s*** about policy, economics, history, or basic civics. Now he is announcing a 10% cut in our defense budget. Hell, his Democrat kick back bill is twice the size of the defense budget, and it doesn’t even produce anything that makes this nation stronger! It pains me every day to see what he is doing to this country, but then I see the conservative movement fighting back just as hard, and it makes it somewhat bearable!

Go Rush and all conservatives fighting for Liberty!!!!!

Posted by donna in Land of Liberty 01/31/09, 07:57 PM EST
As long as we have you on the phone Ralph, how about let’s talk about an issue at hand. How do you feel about the President’s Stimulus Package. Don’t be shy, let’s hear what you’ve got.

Posted by littlebuddie 01/31/09, 07:59 PM EST
You’re not doing your show right now rush.
it must get confusing doing a show and making so many posts at the dccc website

Posted by Ralph Demharter in new kensington, pa. 01/31/09, 08:02 PM EST
Well Ralph, I would deem Clinton’s Affordable Housing Bill to be a failure. Wouldn’t you agree? After all giving mortgages to people who never had any intent or means to pay for them, caused the housing bubble to burst. All of those subprime mortgages were repackaged as prime securities which caused the Wall Street Mess. Fannie, Freddie—Dodd, Frank, Raines—I would say those were failures, too.

Of course, what none of you libs seems to realize (I’m sure it’s just ignorance, not out and out lies) is that Bush AND McCain tried numerous times to get Congress to look into the Fannie and Freddie mess but were shut out by the Democrats.

I would say that was a colossal failure on the part of the Democrat controlled Congress, wouldn’t you, Ralph?

I would say this porkfest of an economic stimulus package will be an utter failure. Tell me, Ralph, do you think these are good ideas: do you think $335,000,000 to study STDs is going to stimulate the economy? Do you think $194,000,000 going to Filipino vets living in the Philippines is going to stimulate the US economy? Do you think $600,000,000 for cars for government workers is going to help YOU? How about $50 BILLION to the National Endowment for the Arts. Is that a good idea, Ralph?

And the list goes on ad nauseum.

So, Ralph, are we still allowed to dissent or should we just bend over and take what they give us? After all, there is still a First Amendment? Right, Ralph?

Posted by Mark Leher 01/31/09, 08:04 PM EST
Take the joint out your lips and make a sensible comment.

Posted by littlebuddie 01/31/09, 08:08 PM EST
Ralph will most likely come back at around 3AM, if at all, like Dennis in Florida. Then he’ll crawl back into his hole of ignorance.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 08:10 PM EST
Liberals really BLOW!

Posted by Kerry in AN AMERICAN WH LOVES THE CONSTUTION 01/31/09, 08:12 PM EST
I think every time someone comes on this blog shooting off their mouth with no facts to back it up, we need to say “Come on man, don’t be a Ralph Dimharter” (intentional misspelling)

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 08:12 PM EST

That would work Stephanie. Or how about, he/she is Ralphing again?

Posted by littlebuddie 01/31/09, 08:15 PM EST
RAAALLPH! I want you to address post 296! Do you think Clinton’s Affordable Housing Bill was a failure????

Come on, get a backbone!! (he’s probably Googling it right now to find out what in the heck it is....)

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 08:18 PM EST
I like, that, littlebuddie—“Ralphing” it is!

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 08:19 PM EST
The Republicans controlled the white house and the congress for six of the last eight years. During that time they ran up record deficit and set in motion all the problems we have today. The two years the democrats had control of congress they had only single vote majority in the senate making it difficult if not impossible for them to effect any change. Even the bill that passed both houses would have given health care to children was unbelievable vetoed by your president. Face it the reagan republican agenda had trickled down it’s last drop. I would rather spend FIVE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS FOR ART rather than a single dime for killing innocent people in a country we have no business invading in a criminal war that has bankrupted our country and played into the hands of Americas worst emenies.
ohhhhhh we gotta live in fear the right wingers say as their rich puppet masters rob every cent from the treasury and the working men and women

Posted by Ralph Demharter in new kensington, pa. 01/31/09, 08:20 PM EST
Oh, Ralph, please—what about the Affordable Housing Bill that is at the heart of the financial mess?

Was it a failure?

Why is it that you Dems always get off track when you can’t answer a simple question?

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 08:21 PM EST
You’re showing incredible (well, not so incredible, I suppose given the circumstances) if you don’t realize this mess started with those bad mortgages.

Educate yourself!

Posted by Mark Leher 01/31/09, 08:25 PM EST
Left out a word, let me re-post:

You’re showing incredible ignorance, Ralph (well, not so incredible, I suppose given the circumstances) if you don’t realize this mess started with those bad mortgages.

Educate yourself!

Posted by Mark Leher 01/31/09, 08:26 PM EST
“the right wingers say as their rich puppet masters rob every cent”

Do you actually think the Democrats are poor??? Are you that ignorant (sorry, I know the answer to that)?

Well, at least our puppet masters pay their taxes.....

(Hint: Google Daschle and Geithner)

And be sure and check out Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. OOH, and my goodness, Obama’s good buddy (and campaign contributor), Franklin Raines—what did he get? $84 million in a couple of years while raping the taxpayers???

What flavor Kool Aid are you drinking Ralph?

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 08:51 PM EST
stephanie you should get a life girl..
sitting here all the time waiting for someone to comment
get a life
finding you on every must need it bad.
and limbaugh isn’t on till monday (you know, he uses viagra)
drill baby drill

Posted by Ralph Demharter 01/31/09, 09:07 PM EST
Gee, Ralph, as usual with you libs, you can’t answer the questions, just fling the insults.

Do you think you hurt my feelings, Ralph?


Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 09:12 PM EST
haha guess if you don’t have anything to say you have to repeat what you said already

Posted by Ralph Demharter 01/31/09, 09:16 PM EST
And Ralph, what is “it”—you say I must need “it” bad. (BTW where have the adverbs gone in this world) You should have said “you must need it badly”.

Actually, I don’t much need anything—as to why I’m always here, my life is pretty much limited to my computer and my small house because I’m a paraplegic. This is what I love, so why shouldn’t I do it?

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 09:17 PM EST
Only reason I repeat, Ralph, is in the hopes that you would actually address some of the questions on issues that have been asked of you.

You obviously are not going to do that.

Just attack me personally, Ralph. Go ahead, I can take it. I’ve through a lot worse than you can dish out.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 09:19 PM EST
I’ve read the past few posts and let me say that I’m always appalled at crude men like Ralph the Dimwitted. Not only can he not answer a question, he resorts to filth in order to deflect the discussion from the issues at hand. You are a disgusting man, Ralph Dimwit - a throwback to a century ago or more. Women should know their place, eh, Ralph? In the kitchen and the bedroom?

You are a sleaze ball—some day we’ll probably see your name on a child porn ring. You have that kind of crude mentality.

Posted by Janice Milam 01/31/09, 09:24 PM EST
well i’m sorry stephanie. Please think that you must certainly be taking advantage of some program the democrats have fought for that the republicans would be more than willing to take away given the opportunity. How can you be in favor of them in that case? Even the affordable housing bill was intended to help the less fortunate. I can’t understand, how someone could be anti-their best interest? So the rich can pocket their wealth at the expense of the less fortunate?? You leave me scratching my head girl.

Posted by Ralph Demharter 01/31/09, 09:25 PM EST
I don’t need a hand out, Ralph—I’m quite capable of making a living from my home. I’m a computer engineer. I have a degree. I have a brain.

If I ever got to the point where I had to depend on the government, I’d rather be dead.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 09:29 PM EST
And, Ralph? I put the interest of my country ahead of my personal interests.

Posted by Stephanie Jackson 01/31/09, 09:29 PM EST
Well like it or not there are people in this world who DO need help.
There is generosity and there is greed.
Those who want to help are in now.
enjoy being the minority opposition party
I am done

Posted by Ralph Demharter 01/31/09, 09:37 PM EST
Rush is right. I am an African American man who wants to see Obama’s liberal politics fall flat on their face. I support the right to life. I support the right to keep and bear arms. I support the right to freedom of speech. I oppose Barack Obama’s politics. I want HIM to fail, I want my COUNTRY to succeed.


Posted by Nakir Al-Hakim in Pittsburgh PA 01/31/09, 09:43 PM EST
Stick a fork in his sizable posterior. He is DONE. I can understand how these braindead rightwingers all seemed to not be listening the day Rush admitted he was a water-carrier for people who didn’t deserve it. REPUBLICAN’TS.

But saying he wants this country and it’s President to FAIL? Tell me again, and let me remind you America has tossed the repugnat party out on it’s butt, why we should let you use the public airwaves to spew anti-American propaganda that Russia would only dream of uttering?

NO MORE. You are politically irrelevant righties. Deal with it. Or not. No one cares.

Posted by Seldona in Reality, unlike the few right wingers left. 01/31/09, 09:54 PM EST
Some more of those rich Republicans. No, wait, I just read it and it the rich Democrats.

“Obama, who’s spent much of the week railing at Wall Street greed, would have to explain why he’s backing a rich political insider who didn’t pay taxes on his limousine.

Daschle’s tax troubles came to light on Friday, closely on the heels of the nomination fight over Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, who failed to pay $34,000 in taxes while working for the International Monetary Fund in the early 2000s. President Obama and Democratic leaders leaned heavily on senators to back the nomination, and he was approved by a 60-34 margin.

Other Democats have also had high profile problems of late that play into this line of attack. New York Rep. Charlie Rangel is under investigation for failing to report rental income on a villa in the Dominican Republic. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardon withdrew his bid for commerce secretary amidst a federal investigation into how political donors landed a lucrative contract.”

Does the hypocrisy ever end with the libs?

Posted by Bob 01/31/09, 10:14 PM EST
How many Dems wished for George Bush’s success?

Posted by derekcrane in pb, FL 01/31/09, 11:02 PM EST
Limbaugh is nothing more than a hypocrite who believes in double standards for himself and those with his same Nazi beliefs. How’s the drug treatment going Limbaugh:) You got away with it but in reality, if you were a hard working blue collar, you’d now be a felon. Your buddies in high places let you walk away without so much as a slap on the wrist, but to the working class,, you’re a felon

Posted by Kathy in Indiana 01/31/09, 11:08 PM EST
Thank you Rush! I read this bill, it is 100% pork.
Hey Democrats, if you want to do some good why don’t you start here: cut the corporate tax rate in half. Institute a flat tax or a fair tax and get rid of the IRS. STOP giving money to businesses and LEAVE THE MARKET ALONE. And stop telling private citizens what to say.

Posted by Mr. Engineer, Economist 01/31/09, 11:12 PM EST
I know that with people like Rush we still have a chance to save this
country from the mess it is in. Keep it up Rush, we are listening, and
back you up !00%. We are a Christian, Capitalist nation, and will
have to voice our opinions to keep it this way. Thanks Rush for
speaking the truth!

Posted by KAREN GLOVER 01/31/09, 11:18 PM EST
Hey Kathy talk about hypocrites with double standards: have you heard of Geithner or Daschle? If those tax cheats didn’t have friends in high places they’d be in jail. Instead they are in your president’s cabinet. Ha. Hypocrite. Rush is a private citizen. why not address the issue of freedom of speech instead of resorting the liberal hate speech?

Posted by Bob 01/31/09, 11:21 PM EST
Thank you Rush! THis is such a great thing that the DCCC (funny how it resembles USSR) is doing. It shows that their ideas can NOT be debated. They must silence and opposition. I’m sorry that the demoncrat ideas are so bad that they can’t stand on teir own.

Posted by Yo-Yo Ma-Ma 02/01/09, 12:01 AM EST
I too hope Obama’s socialists policies fail. You need to stop this, “RUSH to HUSH RUSH” BS.

Posted by Dollar Bill in Alaska 02/01/09, 12:13 AM EST
Keep it up your marxist democratic pigs. The more and more you open your mouths, pry and push your marxist agenda on America, the more you make people forget about dubya, and realize that your european socialist/marxist agenda is gonna work here. Keep working on adding more pork to your porkulus bill, we need more provision in it about honey bee reasearch and rubbers for teenagers. Oh btw, where is Chris Dodd’s mortgage papers?

Posted by Rush 4 President! in USSA ( www ) 02/01/09, 12:31 AM EST

Thanks for defending America in her time of need.
Keep up the good work!
God Bless.

Posted by Horace Johnson in Marina del Rey, California 02/01/09, 01:01 AM EST
You marxist democrats have created a monster now. Facebook groups against your censorship are starting. So much for all the “good will” of Jan 20 when B. Hussein Obama took over.

Posted by Stop the Rush Limbaugh Smears Facebook Group ( www ) 02/01/09, 01:10 AM EST
I don’t want ‘ the messiah ‘ to succeed either. Go Rush! G-d bless FREE SPEECH!

Posted by gorushgo 02/01/09, 02:46 AM EST
Thank you Rush! It’s wonderful to see you standing up to these disgusting Socialist ideas! I’m sick of people making this about race. Obama is not even “black” as they want to claim… hello, he has a white mother. Race should have nothing to do with anything anyway, so let that go!

Posted by Concerned Mother 02/01/09, 03:25 AM EST
Wow.. It’s just stunning how almost without fail the liberals in this ‘discussion’ will NOT discuss the bailouts. They attack us, or Rush, or Republicans, or Bush… bla bla bla..

Please, Please, Please. Read the bill, and come back here and tell us that you like it all, or what you don’t like about it, or that you realized it stinks…

BUT, stop attacking us personally. It doesn’t hurt our feelings, it insults our intelligence, and makes it look like you have none.

I implore you.


Posted by Chris D in CA 02/01/09, 07:31 AM EST
Oh, I forgot…

Ralph… you said:
“I would rather spend FIVE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS FOR ART rather than a single dime for killing innocent people in a country we have no business invading”

But it’s ok to spend money on abortions in other countries?

I’d rather spend that money on something else too, rather than a single dime to kill innocent unborn children in another country.

I’m just saying this for the children. Don’t forget we must do everything “for the children”.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/01/09, 07:37 AM EST
“We’re going to have to wait to see what he does. Now if he turns out to be a Reagan, if he adds Reagan to his recipe of FDR and Lincoln – and if he does cut some taxes – if he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan. But if he’s going to do FDR – if he’s going to do The New New Deal all over, which we will call here The Raw Deal – why would I want him to succeed? Look, he’s my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. It matters not at all. If he is going to implement a far-left agenda… Look, I think it’s already decided: a $2 trillion in stimulus? The growth of government? I think the intent here is to create as many dependant Americans as possible looking to government for their hope and salvation. If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it’s over, Sean. We’re never going to roll that back. That’s the end of America as we have known it, because that’s then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated, or provided. Why would I want that to succeed? I don’t believe in that. I know that’s not how this country is going to be great in the future; it’s not what made this country great. So I shamelessly say, ‘No! I want him to fail.’ If his agenda is a far-left collectivism – some people say socialism – as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?”

That is what Rush ACTUALLY said.

Posted by Norma Ferguson in USA 02/01/09, 08:49 AM EST
quoting Ralph: “Well like it or not there are people in this world who DO need help.
There is generosity and there is greed.
Those who want to help are in now.
enjoy being the minority opposition party”

Those who want to help the less fortunate should, by all means do so. You are free to give money to charity, to volunteer your time to Habitat for Humanity, to buy Girl Scout cookies or to simply hand a $50 bill to a panhandler. Please don’t force me to do so. I will continue to donate time and money to causes I believe in, but my moral compass prohibits me from donating money to fund abortions, anti religious art, and many other so called causes that those without my convictions want the government to fund. Using my money, taken by force in the form of taxes, to fund programs I find morally reprehensible goes against everything I love about America.
Come on now! 4.19 billion of the stimulus package for ACORN and other “low income programs” You want me to fund a group under indictment for fraudulent voter registration? Next Barney Franks will be getting a billion to reopen his male prostitution business.
I am done

Posted by Ernie in Coconut Creek, FL 02/01/09, 10:51 AM EST
This administration and the dems are launching this attack because they don’t want the American people to be informed. They want us to blindly accept whatever the Obamination and congress decide is best for America. People need to be informed so keeping speaking truth. Millions of us are listening and we wil make our voices heard. Free speech is a right and we have an obligation to use it!

Posted by Edna Owens in Fort Collins, Colorado 02/01/09, 10:59 AM EST
Even if Rush is wrong, attacking his right to free speech is deplorable. No one attacks Olbermann for his words, nor Matthews or a host of others. Why?
Attacking Rush only serves to demonstrate to the conservative base that their message is heard, by many, and the plans Obama may have look seriously socialist in nature. That will defeat his plans as he & Democrats are held responsible for the revenue losses & the debt burden placed on our society for generations to come.
Rush may be nasty. Rush may be a conservative. BUT, Rush & every American has a “right” to speak w/o threats or implied threats from government officials or others seeking to impose their will on all!
Its just plain unAmerican to silence critics. Bush didn’t so why should we permit Obama to make that call?

Posted by Rubicon in Southcentral PA, USA 02/01/09, 01:16 PM EST
It’s a RIOT that the liberals are outnumbered 300 to 1 on their own blog - nice work libs! GO RUSH!

Posted by Patriotic American in America 02/01/09, 02:17 PM EST
Rush, When you hope our President fails, it means we as a country fails. You can’t be that stupid can you?

Sorry, I shouldn’t of said that see ins how there are lots of your followers that think the same way and aren’t afraid to voice there opinions here.

Bunch of stone age wannabes..

I can’t believe there are so many stupid people in this country!

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 02:33 PM EST
Rush is correct , it’s not a stimulative bill , not even 12 cents on each buck is going to stimulate the U.S. economy from Obamas Porkulus package.

Obama talks alot ,he says a lot of one thing , but does something else entirely .

This won’t last for long though , in two years the only thing Obama will have left at his disposal is the veto.

Posted by J Paul 02/01/09, 02:40 PM EST
So Roger, what’s your point? I don’t understand your message.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/01/09, 02:42 PM EST
Well, you wanted him, now just try to control him. I am afraid for out country but will be terrified if they can do this to Rush or anyone else that they take a dislike to or that may not see things their way. Please Rush, hang in there, you are my anchor.

Posted by Peggy in Kansas 02/01/09, 02:45 PM EST
Well Littlebuddie, It seems a lot of Rush supporters here don’t understand that when you hope the man in charge fails your hoping the country fails.

How about I put it this way. If I’m a carpenter and my job is to hit a nail on the head and I fail at my job the house will come down because they’re no nails holding the thing together.

Don’t get me wrong I used to listen to Rush all the time. Even when he was high on pain pills I still listened to him. But I’m all for supporting our president of this great nation. I think we should all work together and not have this BS “I hope he fails” mentality.

If you don’t understand what I typed I can’t help you brother!


Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 02:54 PM EST
Remember what the Libs did with Joe The Plumber? Obama approached Joe for conversation and when Joe’s remarks did not satisfy Obama’s needs, Joe was smeared and humiliated, his personal information was spread all over the media and he was made a mockery of. Wait till Obama the Thug gets his hands on you if you disagree with him. His brown-shirted national security force of rehabilitated gang members will come ‘a knockin’ - you’d better believe it!

Posted by littlebuddie 02/01/09, 02:57 PM EST
Joe the plumber? LMAO

And this has what to do with Rush?

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 02:59 PM EST
Boycott San Fran and Las Vegas. Pelosi and Reid must go!

Posted by gunclinger in leftcoast 02/01/09, 03:02 PM EST

Not sure if embedding a video here will work but here’s a try…

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:04 PM EST
nope didn’t work.. it was a video about Joe the plumber…
which has nothing to do with Rush…

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:06 PM EST

Roger is evidently too stupid to read or listen. Roger—read this s-l-o-w-l-y

Rush didn’t say he want the president to fail—he said he wanted his socialist policies to fail.

Comprehend the difference, Roger?

So, how do you feel about the First Amendment, Roger?

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 03:13 PM EST
I’m all for the first amendment. I didn’t say or imply that I wasn’t. Now read this… four words. “I HOPE HE FAILS” out of context or not he said it. Now are you too stupid to understand that. Or are you having a brain fart?

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:18 PM EST
I’m waiting… See the video box in the upper right hand side of the screen. watch it again.. “I HOPE HE FAILS”

Was Rush talking about Osama and not Obama?

chop chop.. superbowls right around the corner!

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:22 PM EST
Roger you are reading the libs edited version.

Try this one:

“If I wanted Obama to succeed, I’d be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he’s talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don’t want this to work. So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.”

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 03:22 PM EST
So, you see, Roger, you bought into the lies. You didn’t read the entire transcript.

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 03:24 PM EST
And, Roger—that video box? That was edited by the DCCC.

How can anyone be this stupid??

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 03:25 PM EST
well, bob, i was born stupid. sorry

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:25 PM EST


Posted by Nigger in Nigger ( www ) 02/01/09, 03:29 PM EST
He said the words. I’ve seen the transcript and he still meant what he said. I HOPE HE FAILS. And he means it too.

Sorry if you think otherwise.

(not really)

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:31 PM EST
Yes I know I was stupid… but I fit right in here…

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 03:32 PM EST
Roger, tell me that’s not you chumming for mischief with the post about N*****

Posted by littlebuddie 02/01/09, 03:33 PM EST
Some people need to get a life.

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:34 PM EST
weren’t me.. I know better!

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:35 PM EST
My Mother brought me up better then that!

God rest her soul!

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:36 PM EST
Roger, I misunderstood: I didn’t realize you were a mind reader. If you really heard the program, then you’d know he meant his socialist policies to fail.

And guess, what? Almost everyone on this blog feels the same way! Why do you want socialism?

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 03:36 PM EST
whelp, off to watch the game… Got pig to chop and wings to fry…


Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 03:37 PM EST
The only point that Roger has made is that he can’t read.

Posted by Jack Gray 02/01/09, 03:37 PM EST
And another lib can’t take the heat. Bye Roger—enjoy the game.

Posted by Jack Gray 02/01/09, 03:38 PM EST
Roger, I am sad for you and Ralph (who posted yesterday) to see you defending yourselves on a website designed to be a ‘safe-haven’ for you. You are doing a Yeoman’s work in absence of your comrades by trying to hold down the fort on your own. I commend you and think that DCCC should at least give you a little medal or something.
No hard feelings matey - enjoy the game.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/01/09, 03:44 PM EST
white people are DYING in Kentucky; freezing to death in their own homes w/no power until mid-February due to a huge ice storm.

where is obama? hosting a super bowl party at ‘da white house.


Posted by kristin 02/01/09, 03:48 PM EST
To the Democratic’s who believe in the hope/change of ideals, that free speech is not right unless your party is in power and its your party receiving free speech.

How stupid you are, by your own auctions you show how foolish you are. Do you think after they silence me they want came after you? Get your face out of the TV and into the true facts of what history has shown us both in regards to large powerful CENTRAL GOVERMENTS. They cause more distruction on any society, because goverment is a consumer not a producer of wealth. Wealth is not a bad thing. That is the reason most of us American Citizens live a higher life style than the world. Its also why we give more blood and money away than any other nation or UN in the world.

I will choose freedom every time, or die hard.

Posted by david shaw in Greensboro NC 02/01/09, 03:51 PM EST
Thank you DNCC. You inspired me, I sent the following message today to 74 separate email addresses:

I am sending a broad message to as many friends and family members as I can who might tolerate such outbursts from me as the one below.

So here’s the thing:

For 8 years I have watched, often despaired, at the decline of our freedoms, security, and fortunes under Bush & Company. So it was with elation and relief that I welcomed the election of Barack Obama. His vision and leadership are what this sorry country has needed. I believe that this is a time for all hands on deck to right our ship of state.

Thanks to an email from the Democratic National Committee, it was brought to my attention that the trash-talking radio personality, Rush (flush?) Limbaugh, has stated on air that he hopes Obama fails.

People like me have tolerated this insufferable blowhard for far too long. I’m convinced as ever of the old Edmund Burke (the 18th Century Irish political philosopher) admonition , that “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.”

I looked over the Rush Limbaugh website and assembled the following from his advertisers’ respective websites (there may be others but I think I found them all):

ProFlowers ( on-line flower sales

Citrix Online ( “we believe that a company is not an ‘it.’ It is an ‘us.’ Together, we take responsibility for the impact of our organization’s activities on customers, shareholders, the public and the environment.”

FunEducation, Inc. ( “provides the most practical, easy-to-use and cost-effective products for knowledge delivery”

RealAge, Inc. (, “a consumer-health media company and provider of personalized health information and management tools.”

Weiss Group ( “one of the largest, most reputable sources of global investment information.”

LifeLock ( “the industry leader in the rapidly growing field of Identity Theft Protection.”

ALOT ( “a software company dedicated to making the Internet easy.”

Lear Capital ( “Take one of the top gold coin companies, adapt it to the specific needs of Web investors, add real time pricing and a real-time staff, the latest online features, email alerts, secure ordering...and what emerges?”

Carbonite ( online backup service “with customers in over 100 countries.”

I sent the following message to all of them:

You pay for advertising with a radio personality who claims that he hopes our new president will fail. You don’t think that is UNPATRIOTIC? I am a 60-year-old professional who is very active in his community. I have scores of nieces, nephews, in-laws, siblings, aunts, and uncles… and many friends and colleagues. I am sending a broadcast message to all of them urging they not do business with your company, asking that they forward my message on to others. Your business should be considered TOXIC until you disclaim your association with Limbaugh’s hateful, destructive and Un-American demagoguery.

The Limbaugh program is distributed by Premiere Radio Networks of Sherman Oaks, CA. I copied them of the above message.

Here’s my question for you dear family member or friend: can you please send this on to someone you know? This insufferable moron should finally start to feel some discomfort from so many of us who’ve sat by quietly for far too long. Alternatively, you can request that I not bother you with such intrusions.


ps- highly recommended, Frank Rich in today’s NYT, “Herbert Hoover Lives”

Posted by Jim Quigley in East Orange, NJ 02/01/09, 04:21 PM EST
Great post Mr. Quigley!

Posted by Roger 02/01/09, 04:35 PM EST
Mr. Quigley can’t read either.

Posted by Ernie in Coconut Creek, FL 02/01/09, 04:52 PM EST
Mr. Jim—you’re laughable. The sponsors are after the money and no matter what you say, they’ll stay with Rush because they make money.

You just made yourself look like a fool in emailing them stating that Rush hopes Obama fails, but like Roger, you can’t read.

If you would get your head out of your rear and educate yourself you would realize that he said he hopes Obama’s socialist policies fail. That, of course has been pointed out hundreds of times on this blog.

And, Jim—I’m sorry you “tolerated the insufferable blowhard” for so long. If only you’d known there is an OFF switch on the radio?

Not much liberal radio, though, I grant you. Al and Air America just couldn’t make it “in the arena of ideas.”

Don’t hold your breath waiting on those sponsors to choke, Jim. I signed up for both Lifelock and Carbonite this past week.

Posted by Jack Gray 02/01/09, 04:55 PM EST
Jim Quigley went to school

Jim Quigley is still a fool.

Spent 12 years there and still can’t read

An education is what he needs

Poor Jim Quigley musta flunked that school.

Posted by Randy Moses 02/01/09, 04:58 PM EST
Quiqley (btw, funny one, Randy Moses) you said “Alternatively, you can request that I not bother you with such intrusions. “

OK, here’s the request: don’t bother us with your drivel that is nothing but lies, you moron.

YOU ---- DON’T-----KNOW-----HOW-----TO-----READ.

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 05:43 PM EST
I need to address a part of this that we have been skipping over, because we are used to people thinking for themselves, and not having to have EVERYTHING pointed out for them.

For years we have heard “We support to Troops, we just don’t support the war”. Rush was parodying that when he said “I support Obama, I just don’t support his policies.” and then (in context) “I hope he fails”. Your response to this was that, “If Obama fails, America fails”. Wouldn’t that also apply to what the libs have been saying about the troops? You really never supported the Troops did you? You wanted the war to fail! You wanted the USA to fail!

Where were you when your fellow libs were actively stating that they wanted Bush to fail? Where were you when your fellow libs were saying the war had failed, even before it was done? Wasn’t all of that ill will bad for us all? Or was it just healthy dissent?

And therefore, isn’t what Rush is saying, just healthy dissent? And your attempt at silencing him is unpatriotic. If his free speech fails, we all fail?

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/01/09, 06:58 PM EST
Uh Oh Mr. Quigley, get to a Doctor as soon as you can - you are in the end stages of Hypo KoolAidio Cerebral Stasis. You and your people continue to incorrectly quote Rush. How many times must you be told? How long must your ignorance be endured and your and tart little comments tolerated before you ‘get it’.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/01/09, 07:21 PM EST
is Quigley that guy that used to squeeze the charmin?

Posted by lynn 02/01/09, 07:29 PM EST
“I HOPE HE FAILS” - Taken directly from Roger’s post.

Guess Roger is actually on Rush’s side.

Who knew?

Posted by Joe Goebbels in special part of Hell 02/01/09, 07:51 PM EST
“This insufferable moron should finally start to feel some discomfort “ - Jim

Jim, this is what you posted above.

If you claim to be a moron (which you did), I’d have to concur.

Posted by Joe Goebbels in special part of Hell 02/01/09, 07:57 PM EST
Dear Rush “Ditto-head” Limburger,

So you hope Obama will fail knowing personally that you know he will succeed and his stimulus plan will work but you want him to fail only to suit your own self righteous ignorance. You want him to fail so the country fails so you can say (out of ignorance of course) “see, I told you so”. I expect this coming from a jackass ditto-head who went through four divorces due to alcohol, drugs and wife beating. That’s you I’m talking about jackass. You have no room to talk hypocrite. All you care about is you, your 400,000,000 million dollar contract and ratings (while defending corrupt CEOs). Shut up and let REAL AMERICANS unlike yourself fix this country in a bi-partisan manner because your insults and rhetoric and the hot air you blow from that cist on your anus (while hiding in the comfort of a radio studio and a microphone) is counter-productive. Screw you! It’s morons like you who are making this country go to Hell in a hand-basket.

So you won’t accept CNNs challange to debate you? Why? I know why. Because you are afraid you will get owned horribly. You’re a wuss. Be a real man and accept their challange. Show you got real balls! You bashed them on-air behind the comforts of your desk in the studio in your passionate cowardly fashion. Have some real balls to say it directly to their faces you wussy. I know you have balls underneath that limp penis of yours that requires viagra to make it big. Maybe you should be the mascot for Enzyte instead of “Bob”.

Oh.... You are doing a fine job helping the democrat cause. It’s rhetoric like yours that cost your repuke buddies the last two elections and it will cost your repuke buddies the next two. Maybe YOU should be a democrat. You’re a great help to them.

Now go run to the medicine cabinet and take some more oxy-contin while you ponder your next spate of anti-American sentiments you pill-popping junkie. If anyone I hope fails is YOU!

Shut up DITTO-HEAD! Real Americans demand you to do so you uneducated misguided troll!


Posted by AMERICA in Boston area 02/01/09, 08:28 PM EST
Yeah, you tell’em America in Boston!We REAL Americans ARE going to fix it aren’t we? I’m glad we are on the same side.

We’re gonna get a lot of tax cheats to run this country.

Any, yeah, that was soooo smart, America to say Rush is too chicken to debate that Brown chick. After all she just said that yesterday and he’s on vacation for a week. Timing is everything, isn’t it? Brilliant move to bring that up, America!

And, you know, a REAL man would snort cocaine like Obama not use Oxycontin, right America?

Talk about hypocrites—you nailed that on the head! Only thing you didn’t bring out was if Rush is so washed up why is our man Barack so afraid of him. Can ya explain that to me, my new friend, would you? I need to know in case I’m challenged to debate.

And, America, when we get through with these conservative MORONS, no one will have free speech anymore right? Because people like you and me—well, we express ourselves too well, who needs anyone else?

Rant, on brother, rant on! After all the harder you blow, the less logic we ‘uns have to use, right America? And maybe no one will notice that we aren’t touching that Chris Dodd and Barney Frank Mess. and as for Geithner and Daschle. Well, hey they are OUR tax cheats, right? And we, the smart democrats—well, heck, we are so smart we shouldn’t be made to have to pay taxes right? Just them moron republicans.

You and me—we are two of a kind!

Posted by BigMouthBubba 02/01/09, 09:39 PM EST
ROFLMAO, BigMouthBubba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Just Say No to Socialism 02/01/09, 10:01 PM EST
I am stunned at how many people drink the coolaid served up on tv. I scarcely watch the world news now. I do support Rush. This Democratic leadership we have is like a rotten tooth. I hope President Obama fails at his bad policies and I hope he is very successful at his good policies. You’d be a moron to have it any other way. Go get em Rush!

Posted by M.Good 02/01/09, 10:44 PM EST
Rush is right! I too will support Obama when his policies uphold the Constitution and protect the American people. But I will work against his efforts to turn America into a clone of European socialism. If he pushes socialism then I too hope Obama fails.

Posted by RoBear in the Outer Banks 02/01/09, 11:10 PM EST
Would be nice to see some constructive ideas that Rush thinks will work being posted. Rush has been a critic of the Democrats for years now. Admit the policies of the Republicans have not worked, I think we can all see plenty of evidence of that. Until the ideas of the new administration are implemented and it can be documented that they are a failure, I do not think Rush has much to critizie, at least this administration is trying to address the numerous problems. I do believe that the previous administration made a glorified mess of things. What was the approval rating of the last administration? I think the American public voted what they think about the Republican party.

Thank You

P.S. I am a long time Republican. Surprised?

Posted by W B Heath 02/01/09, 11:13 PM EST
Go to Rush’s website, w b heath—he’s put up his own plan, and he’s got some good ideas.

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 11:20 PM EST
And, w b heath, since this blog is about a political organization trying to silence a private citizen, what to you think about the first amendment?

Posted by Bob 02/01/09, 11:21 PM EST
Keep on going Rush. Keep standing up against the new socialist party.

Posted by Jared in Nashville, TN 02/02/09, 12:01 AM EST
I was really feeling bad because I thought our country had elected a President that was going to ruin our country and no one would speak out against him. I was so excited when I heard Rush defending our country and our traditional values. Keep up the good work Rush. I pray the Republicans stand up for what is right like Rush is doing. Obama and his liberals thought no one would dare say anything against their socialist agenda. God Bless America and God Bless Rush.

Posted by Jerry 02/02/09, 12:11 AM EST
You LOONY/MOON-BAT/DEMS are trying to destroy Free-Speech (and religion and free-enterprise) in this country - God Bless Rush Limbaugh! I hope he isn’t (for the sake of my 2 daughters), but Obama may be the Anti-Christ…

Posted by Germaine2 in Wisconsin 02/02/09, 12:20 AM EST
CHANGE! TELL ME WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE AND I WILL TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE!!! Check out the cronies, Mr. Change and his newly elected members are all tarnished!! Chicago politics now in the White House. Disgraceful. It is corrupt, corrupt, corrupt.

This is the DNC you admire? Now as a journalist Wolf, go do your homework, and start reporting the truth, or have you forgotten what principals are and why journalists from the past were respected. Are you that ignorant!!!

Posted by Rita 02/02/09, 01:14 AM EST
I AM NOT OUTRAGED!! I listened to the complete Limbaugh comment in context and do not find him saying anything about his desire for Obama to fail, but for the Obama policies to fail; I have the same sediments exactly! I do not want policies that endanger our freedom and our founding fathers ideals. As an American I believe in freedom and personal responsibility, I do not want my government to continue its over-reach into the private sector. Any half wit would know the difference between a socialist agenda failing and the president personally failing! When Obama limits the power of government, cuts taxes for ALL Americans (who actually pay tax) gets out of the way of the free enterprise system then I would hope for Obama’s success. Atta boy Rush!! Keep up the great work!
By the way CNN and the DNC you should be ashamed of your selves but you probably aren’t.

Posted by Dwayne in Tyler, TX 02/02/09, 03:22 AM EST
“Any half wit would know the difference between a socialist agenda failing and the president personally failing!”

Roger doesn’t.

Posted by Just Say No to Socialism 02/02/09, 08:20 AM EST
There’s hope. Here’s a reply to my message to one of Flush’s advertisers:

Dear James,

Thank you for taking the time to contact ProFlowers. We would like to assure you that ProFlowers does not endorse the views expressed by Rush Limbaugh. We understand your concerns and we will ensure that your feedback is communicated to the producers of the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show. We appreciate your feedback, as it allows us to more effectively manage our relationships with our advertising partners. If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best Regards,

HB Diane Cooper
Customer Care

Posted by Jim Quigley 02/02/09, 08:32 AM EST
I just noticed the banner at the bottom of this page full of support for Rush Limbaugh. “Paid for by Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.” Thanks DCCC.

I want Obama to fail because his plans are based on failed ideas and as such, his failure, while not good for the Presidency will ultimately protect America’s success.

I don’t want America to fail.

God Bless America.

Posted by Travis in The good old U S of A 02/02/09, 09:11 AM EST
Hey, Quigley!
You must be on the wrong website! This one is running about 300 to 1 in FAVOR of Rush.

You still can’t read, man—you are an idiot.

Posted by Just Say No to Socialism 02/02/09, 10:03 AM EST
Mr. Quigley,

Let me see if I understand you. Rush said that if Obama’s policies lead us into socialism, that he hopes Obama fails.

You write a bunch of companies that are sponsoring Rush’s show and complain about because Rush said he doesn’t want the USA to go down the path toward socialism.

You look like a fool who can’t read—unless, of course, you support socialism. In that case, why don’t you move to Venezuela, Cuba or Russia?

Posted by Nancy in Boston 02/02/09, 10:24 AM EST

Jim Quigley went to school

Jim Quigley is still a fool.

Spent 12 years there and still can’t read

An education is what he needs

Poor Jim Quigley musta flunked that school.

Posted by Randy Moses in Boston 02/02/09, 10:24 AM EST
hahahahahaha ... lovely poem!

If obama fails, america succeeds.

I hope obama fails.

Down with socialism! Down with obama’s corrupt administration!

Rush is right!

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/02/09, 10:38 AM EST
I think we all need to email Diane what’s her name at Pro Flowers and tell her what an idiot Quigley is and to disregard his email.

Aah, why bother? They know where their money is coming from—from people that listen to Rush and Hannity.

Posted by Randy Moses in Boston 02/02/09, 10:44 AM EST
Hey, Nancy—see we are in same fine city! Greetings!

Posted by Randy Moses in Boston 02/02/09, 10:45 AM EST
Rush is a master at what he does, he is a case study for anyone studying marketing. He found a niche market of a bunch of cry babies and whiners who just love to call in or in this case write in and hear each other bitch and moan. He exploited his market to the max,just as everyone who has ever been involved in marketing has been trained to do,and my hat is off to him for that.

Unfortunately for you President Obama is in the White House with a 73% approval rating, the Democrats are the majority party in the House and Senate and the way the Republicans are acting when the 2010 elections come around will lose even more seats to the Democrats.

I am sure the DCC is really worried about 400 posts on this site, lets see 69,715,535 votes for Obama and 400 posts that don’t like him a whopping .000006% that is enough to having them quaking in their boots.

Posted by Dennis in Florida 02/02/09, 10:56 AM EST
“Monday, February 02, 2009

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Approval Index for Monday shows that 41% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing as President.”

Looks like it’s going down.......

Posted by Jennier in New York 02/02/09, 11:02 AM EST
Haha, Dennis, you idiot ... Bush had approval ratings in the 70’s when he was president too. What a fine non-sequitur that was.

It’s your party that’s trying to undermine free speech. The reason that you, and no other democrat here, have responded to this is that you know your party is dead wrong on this.

Doesn’t it scare you that your party is attacking the free speech rights of a private individual?

Oh, the density.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/02/09, 11:04 AM EST
If no one is worried, why try to silence free speech.

If this measly few posts are such a non-issue, why do you keep coming back? Let us have our little piddly party, dear. I’ve read the entire blog and you are so boringly predictable.

Posted by Jennier in New York 02/02/09, 11:04 AM EST

All very valid, reasonable questions that Dennis will not and cannot answer.

It is so glaringly obvious that Dennis’ side is the side of socialism and commie-esque regulation of free speech, it’s a wonder he doesn’t just come out and say it.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/02/09, 11:10 AM EST
... And to answer the questions that Dennis is afraid of:

It’s because democraps can’t win on the issues.


Their undermining free speech, in particular. Instead, they must silence their opponents. If it weren’t such a grave threat to our freedoms as Americans, it would be absolutely hilarious in its absurdity.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/02/09, 11:16 AM EST
Yes, Dennis, Brandon has a very valid point—though he is off a bit on his percentage.

“In 2001 Bush held approval ratings of greater than 85%, among the highest for any President.”

And look how low he fell.

So, don’t get too cocky—your guy is already falling. And if he keeps on nominating those tax cheats to his cabinet, it’s going to go down mighty fast, Dennis, might fast.

Please, regale us with some more of your boring rants.

Posted by Jennifer in New York 02/02/09, 11:25 AM EST

Posted by A. Cole in Wappingers Falls, New York 02/02/09, 12:05 PM EST
I’ll sign that petition:

As a citizen of the United States of America, I am outraged that Rush Limbaugh, a private citizen like me, would have the audacity to impose his negative opinions about the Obama administration on the 1/6th of the American population that listens to him. Has he no decency? No reverence, no respect for government? Is it really so hard for this man to graciously support the efforts of the current elected majority, even if he disagrees with them? When the tables were turned and his party was in power, his side was never met with such egregious atrocities. Democrats, liberal radio, and Americans everywhere, regardless of race, age, or gender, worked tirelessly to come together and express their support for the Bush administration. At times, some may have observed, predicted, or just out-right delcared failure - But not one time did anybody ever express such a grotesque desire for president Bush and his party to fail. Why should Limbaugh receive special privileges?

Our constitution unambiguously prohibits any criticism of government by the private sector. We must speak with one voice to show Rush Limbaugh that he is no exception: I call on the government of the United States to storm the EIB network and forcefully remove Mr. Limbaugh from the seat of power that he has abused for 20 years, speaking all-too freely about the things he does not like about targeted demographics. Let him be made an example to any and all others in the private sector who might dare violate the constitution of our great nation by criticizing the government. Let us all bend over and grab our ankles in support of ALL our elected officials, black men or white women, republican or democrat, even when we strongly disagree with them. Give us government, or give us death!

Concerned citizen,
Brandon, PA

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/02/09, 01:22 PM EST
Brandon, do you think a Liberal would understand your message? I think your expectations are a little high taking into consideration that they are repelled to read anything more complicated than a bumper sticker. I enjoyed your attempt though.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/02/09, 02:00 PM EST

I think they would totally MISunderstand it and cheer me on, haha (wouldn’t that be funny).

In other words: I think they wouldn’t even get it. What is a complete joke to a rational person is a good sermon to a liberal.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/02/09, 02:10 PM EST
Oh, dear me, Dennis in Florida, have you seen the latest poll on Obama’s approval rating? From Democracy Corp—a left leaning organization:

“Obama approval rating: 55 percent

A new Democracy Corps poll shows that 55 percent of American approve of the job President Barack Obama is doing, however 65 percent of respondents say the country is on the wrong track.”

This was released today, Dennis—I’m so sorry. Why just this morning you told us his approval rating was...what? 73% Yes, 73%

My, my, at this rate, he’ll be as low as Bush at his lowest, by Thursday or Friday.

You must be heartsick.

Posted by Jennifer in New York 02/02/09, 04:11 PM EST
Despite the effort of a few lib trolls, conservatives seem to be carrying the day. I’m going to call Rush’s sponsors and thank them for supporting free speech. :)

Posted by Mick McConnell 02/02/09, 04:16 PM EST
Oh, Mick, I hope you do call his sponsors. I emailed Pro Flowers and told them they really SHOULD ignore that idiot Quigley. :)

Posted by Jennifer in New York 02/02/09, 04:21 PM EST
If higher taxes, more social programs, more deficit spending, amnesty for illegals, growth of union power over right to work, bigger government bureaucracy, more pork projects, censorship of talk radio, appointment of activist judges, gun control, wasted time and resources chasing after the solution to a non-existent problem - (man made global warming) is defined by President Obama and the Democrats as success, then by all means, I also hope he fails.

Posted by Cameron in Murrieta, CA 02/02/09, 06:38 PM EST
I love Rush, I love America.
Where is freedom of speech?
Rush is my voice and I am an American and have a right to be heard.

Posted by Christine Bauserman in Tucson, AZ 02/02/09, 07:35 PM EST
Isn’t it amazing how much the liberals act like spoiled little children? They throw temper tantrums when they don’t get their own way and make everyone else miserable until they do or until someone gets sick of it and gives them a long overdo spanking. I say we Conservatives gather up all the immature liberals we know and take them out to the woodshed and tan their hides. Maybe then they will grow up and learn that conservatism and maturity go hand in hand.

Posted by Jo Nathan Skawires in Daytona Beach, FL 02/02/09, 11:57 PM EST
Wow, I now realize the Democratic Party is the party of deception. The posts on this site are overwhelming supporting Rush and his right to question Obama’s plans for our country. And the arm of the Democratic Party, the main stream media, report that the petition is successful without letting us know it is pro Rush. Amazing but sad. I fear the The Chicago Machine and The Clinton Machine have come together in a unity of deception and corruption. Just take a look at their policies and the type of people chosen for their cabinet and openly supported by Democrats. We as Americans need to stand together and stand strong for the principles this country was built on.

Posted by Betty in Illinois 02/03/09, 12:07 AM EST
I registered as a Democrat so I could vote for Obama and watch Billary LOOSE! I got my wish!

I voted for McCain so I could watch the Kenyan LOOSE! Oh, well. Win some, loose some.

Whatcha gonna do now, Dems? Take away my God, guns and Freedom Of Speech? You give UnAmerican a nice new face!

Love & kisses!

Posted by randi sanchez in Vancouver, WA ( www ) 02/03/09, 12:25 AM EST
“Whatcha gonna do now, Dems? Take away my God, guns and Freedom Of Speech?”


Posted by littlebuddie 02/03/09, 12:32 AM EST
To: Rush Limbaugh...thank you for your courage to stand up for what you believe in!!! We need more like you!!!!

To: DCCC...Did Rush Limbaugh tell his radio listeners he hoped President Obama would fail in his attempt to advance liberal, socialist policies? If so...then GREAT!!! WE DON"T WANT SOCIALISM IN ANY FORM!!!...Make sure you’ve quoted him exactly and NOT twist words and post selective video clips? Let’s hear the whole statement word for word and be fair!!!

By the way, since when does a US President have the time to comment/criticize and a Party to create blogs and petitions against a US citizen exercising his 1st Amendment rights? Aren’t there more serious issues at hand? Or, did he (Rush) strike a nerve???

All Presidents have had to tolerate some form of scrutiny and criticism...that is the only way to keep government accountable!! So let’s leave race of out it and deal with the real facts...integrity. How about the oath to protect the Constitution?

When it comes to politics--look at actions not words i.e. flowery, eloquent speeches about vague ideas of change. What’s the real plan of change here?

Posted by Sharon 02/03/09, 03:05 AM EST
I wonder if all these wonderful statements are going to make it to the media??? Probably not…

TOO BAD...THIS IS GREAT!!!! These voices need to be heard!!!!!

Posted by Shar 02/03/09, 03:43 AM EST
Thank God for Rush Limbaugh!! Freedom of Speech!

You DEMS selectively picked apart his interview and took his commentary out of text and made it out to be different from what he actually said. That is the kind of Bullcrap you liberals do which is exactly why I would rather be set on fire with gas than to ever be liberal.

Posted by Mark in Rockford, IL 02/03/09, 07:10 AM EST
Goodness gracious this isn’t what I expected to see here. I don’t particularly like Rush with his ‘Republicans good Democrats baaaad’ blather, as much as I don’t like Alan Colmes (or however you spell his name) for the same reason (just switch the parties). But in this instance I DO agree with Rush. If Obama is trying to move this great country to a socialist police state, I hope he fails too. Keep up the good fight everyone. Just please be wise enough to check out things for yourself instead of being outraged just because someone said you should.

Posted by Johnathan Quest in albany ny 02/03/09, 01:16 PM EST
Rush Limbaugh is an embarrassement to American intellectualism and ethics. The people who listen to him are the same people who have ruined our country and supported sending our soldiers to war illegally.

I find it sad that Bush, Cheney, Rove and all the rest, including Limbaugh, can’t be tried for treason.

Now however, what we must do, as our new President has asked, is to reach out to those we disagree with and find our common ground. That doesn’t mean changing your opinion - that means approaching things with more ethics than rhetoric.

Are you ready for that?

Posted by Karuana Gatimu in Redondo Beach, CA ( www ) 02/03/09, 07:49 PM EST
You go, Rush!!! Keep exercising your freedom of speech rights!!! We support you and thank you for being on the front line!!!

Posted by A Patriot 02/03/09, 07:52 PM EST
Again, not one creditable idea on what we should do to fix the current problems. It is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain cell that the policies of the past have been a dismal failure. I ask you what political party was in the majority in congress and the senate while all this was happening? Said it before, will say it again, Rush is nothing more than a loud mouth whose only interest is to keep himself on the airway. Haven’t we seen enough of those who are only out for themselves?

Stop and think!

Posted by W B Heath 02/03/09, 08:31 PM EST
wb heath—you think Rush SHOULDN’T be interested in keeping himself on the airway. IT’S CALLED BUSINESS. BUSINESS MAKE PROFIT. BUSINESSES GIVE YOU JOBS UNLESS YOU ARE LIVING ON WELFARE.

You posted the other day saying you were a Republican (uh-huh, we all believe that). Someone told you to go to his website and read up on his stimulus plan.

You slunk away and stayed away for awhile—like ALL of the rest of the libs that have mouthed off.

I’ll tell you this: $335,000,000 for STDs; $194,000,000 for filipino vets LIVING IN THE PHILIPINES and all of that other pork in that bill won’t fix the economy.

Study up on that housing bubble Heath—you might actually learn something. Get your head our of your rear and educate yourself.

And, didn’t someone ask YOU specifically what you thought of the FIRST AMENDMENT?

How do you justify a political organization trying to silence a private citizen’s right to free speech.


Posted by lynn 02/03/09, 09:14 PM EST
i gotch yer back on thus un, wb – don’t yew worry! i like to take care of my fellow librals. i’m so happy to be on the same page with yew. But, if yew are gonna skedaddle back into woods insted of staying here to take the heat, it mite be nice if you’d make it alittle eazier on me.

Fer 1 thing – ditch that funtioning brain cell stuff – affer all, yew seem to throw it a lot but don’t much like to answer some of these quesyuns. I know, I know, wb—them is hard quesyuns these folks toss around like yesterdees underwear. But still, think,my man, think.

And, course, that bit bout the party in majority – well, heck, man even I know it was our buds Harry and Nancy in charge lately. Come on wb, you make this hard. Work with me, man. Bad move, my man, bringin’ that up—let’s stick to some “facts” that are not so easy to check up on.

Yew got some gud points, wb, yew sure do. You and me is on the same page, that’s fer sure.

(now it’s ok to rant and blow hard cuz that way we don’t have to work at tryin’ to use any of that logic, know what I mean, wb?)

Oh well, never mind, what matters here is we are on the same page! Yew and me is on the same page, wb! I love the way we can all hit ‘em hard—yew know just say anything we want—i’ll bet your momma told you the same thing my momma told me: through enuff mud and some of it will stick! well, momma didn’t say mud, but yew know what i mean! heh heh you and me’s of the same mindset, WB!

Yer fightin a good fight, my man. I jes love bein’ on the same page with such a smart thinking democrat.

Yew ever git down here to Mississippi, come on by and let’s toss back a few! Yer always welcome in my house, wb.

Posted by BigMouthBubba 02/03/09, 09:48 PM EST

Do you REALLY think the Democrats have the moral high ground? The same scandals that would get a Republican removed from office, or jailed, are excused when it’s a Democrat.

Let me give a few examples for you to think about.

Bill Clinton (D). Performs Adultery in his office, and lies about it to a Grand Jury (Felony). Democrats call it personal, and not an issue.

George Allen (R). Mispronounces a name (Maccaca) that just happens to be slang in The Belgian Congo. Democrats and the press won’t leave it alone for months.

Tim Geithner(D) Tax Fraud. Got the job anyway.

The rest of us. Tax Fraud. Go to jail.

Tom Daschle (D) Tax fraud. Democrats excuse it as a “mistake”. He only didn’t get the job because he dropped out, not because the Democrats were against him.

This clearly falls under “people in glass houses”. The only reason it continues, is because the press has abdicated their responsibility and barely reports Democrat issues, while making mountains out of Republican ant hills.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/03/09, 10:12 PM EST
Rush Limbaugh is one of the most disgusting, vile, hate-filled people on the radio today. And you conservative bigots are right behind him! This is a man who shills for BIG OIL while the rest of us go broke. The man who sides with Wall Street while the rest of the country ends up on unemployment. The man who urges us to buy gas guzzling SUV’s when gas is $4.00 a gallon helping give the oil companies some of the biggest profits when the rest of the country’s businesses are looking for bail out money!!!! Let’s remember that it was REPUBLICANS who have been in charge these last eight years. LOOK AROUND YOU!!! LOOK WHAT’S GOING ON??? The economy has tanked. Wall street executives have STOLEN billions of dollars from us and used the money to give themselves bonuses and extravagant parties!!! Talk about Socialism??? Please!!! You all are a bunch of idiots to follow that lame brained, drug popping man!!! In less than two weeks, President Obama has done more good for this country than Big Oil Bush did in the last eight years. And the voice of dissent makes you more patriotic??? Really??? Then that means when Big Oil Bush lied to us to get us into the war and the LIBERAL DEMOCRATS said his reasons for going to war in Iraq were crap that they were the TRUE PATRIOTS. Not you neo-conservative sheep who seem incapable of having individual thoughts and just regurgitate the anti-American vomit that spews out of that fat hog’s mouth each and every day. I can’t wait until you are all eating your words when President Obama’s policies turn this country around and EVERYONE can prosper again like we did under the last DEMOCRAT that led this country.

Posted by Conservatives Suck in USA 02/03/09, 11:37 PM EST
Karuana, where you Liberal pluckers been? We’ve been sittin’ here waiting for some noise from your side except we expected more than just the usual dart. Got anything useful to say? Let’s talk about the first amendment or something. Tax evasion? Socialism? National resuscitation by Pork Spending?

Posted by Ruggy 02/04/09, 12:08 AM EST
Dear “Conservatives Suck”,

Where do I start.

1) Calm Down. Your hate shines through clearly. While the conservatives here are calmly waiting for a reasoned response.

2) The Gas prices had gone back down before the Democratic caused financial meltdown. Two separate incidents.

2) The Financial Meltdown was caused by the Democrats first forcing the banks to make bad loans, and then continually fighting against regulation of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. 7 times, the Democrats fought tooth and nail, slinging many insults, to keep Bush from regulating FM/FM.


3) For 8 years conservatives have listened to a constant barrage of insults about GW. Liberals have called into question every decision he every made, called him stupid, alternately a puppet and a puppet-master, and many other worse insults. For any real or perceived insults that you may feel that have been expressed here. HA and Double HA. Its your turn now to know what it feels like.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/04/09, 12:41 AM EST
Best response I’ve seen is the pic of what if Rush had been on the air in WW2 and “I hope Roosevelt fails” coming out of the GI’s radios. Nice hijack righties BUT the facts and number are on our side. Roosevelt made it work. Bush tried exactly what Hoover tried and it failed. Obama is the center (it’s just that we have not seen the center fro so long it scares the crap out of some of you who are learning just how far right you have gone.

Last thing Rush is supposed to be an entertainer NOT a policy maker. You guys tell him what to say not the other way around (are you listening RNC?) Proud Union Member

Posted by Joe Davenport 02/04/09, 04:11 AM EST
Hey Joe—how proud are you gonna be of your unions when they go bust?

You are really something—go back to school and learn to read, Joe (hey, I know, union guys don’t read, but give it a try, man).

Rush said he hopes Obama’s Socialist policies fail. Listen.


You might actually educate yourself.

Posted by lynn 02/04/09, 09:46 AM EST
Hey, Joe Davenport and Conservatives S***:

This is the kind of thing those sucking republicans do:
“Senate Republicans yesterday stripped a special $246 million tax break for Hollywood producers from President Obama’s stimulus package.

“This isn’t stimulus. This is a gift,” said Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who wrote the amendment to strike out the giveaway for some of the Democrats’ most generous political supporters.

“It’s not going to stimulate the economy at all,” he said. “What it’s going to do is line the pockets of very wealthy individuals already not experiencing the downside of the economy.”

Guess you guys think this should be left in? That really helps you and your union out doesn’t Joe. Giving more money to Speilburg and the gang.

You liberals need to quit your cursing and hate spewing and actually try to educate yourselves.

Posted by lynn 02/04/09, 10:03 AM EST
Here’s another fine example of a Democrat lie and all you nimrod libs will probably believe it

Pelosi today “500 million Americans lose jobs every month”.

Think that might be a SCARE tactic?

Or do you liberal morons think we actually have 500 million Americans????????????

Laughing my A$$ off at you idiot liberals!!

Posted by Randy Moses 02/04/09, 10:13 AM EST
Another Liberal runs by and throws a stink bomb. I guess that’s supposed to impress the rest of us.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/04/09, 11:37 AM EST
Ah ... What a fantastic illustration of precisely the kind of free speech that the DCCC is trying to regulate. Is it any wonder that they are compared with commies?

You just remember that, all you drive-by democraps.

Remember that you are talking about anything and everything EXCEPT the issue here.

You just remember that YOUR party is trying to undermine the free speech of a private citizen. Now tell me, Is that not exactly like the commies? Gosh, i wonder how on earth somebody could think that democrats are communist! Gee, I friggin’ wonder where that idea came from!

MAYBE it was because of the DCCC’s assault on our liberties.

Uh ... just MAYBE.

Let’s not get so distracted in this discussion slinging mudballs that we forget who the real threat to our liberties are: THE DEMOCRATS.

What they are doing to Limbaugh is indefensible. That they are undermining our liberties is absolutely irrefutable.

DEMOCRAPS: How can you POSSIBLY not see that I am correct about this? Do you really WANT to defend what your party is doing here?

God, how brainwashed and hopelessly naive must people be.


Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 11:47 AM EST
And Randy Moses: Ha! That is hilarious!

These people are so full of crap.

Fear is the tool they use to acquire power and control our lives.

... And our SPEECH.

Commie b*st*rds.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 11:50 AM EST
Joe Davenport,

You idiot, Roosevelt prolonged the depression by 7 years. It was WWII that got us out. Go educate yourself, you pompous know-it-all-but-really-knows-crap.

You have been brainwashed. Time to wake up and realize that your party is acting like the enemies we fought in WWII.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 11:54 AM EST
Lynn: You are nothing but a damn sheep, you’ll follow anyone anywhere. I have been listing to the likes of Rush when someone was probably changing your smelly dipper. I have been following politics when you most likely were just a thought for your daddy. I am all in favor of someone making a honest living, but I am dead set against greed and egotism. In my opinion Rush is the poster child for both of those categories.

Ah ya know who.

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 01:44 PM EST
Joe Davenport,
The problem is that when Liberals enter a conversation, all they do is make a very loud noise and leave a foul smell. Your best tactics are bullying and poking your opponent in the eye with a stick. Here is a piece of classified information for you and your band of merry lads, Conservatives and others on the right wing are predominately a patient, enduring and thoughtful group who don’t like to argue with ignorance so they give the appearance of being easy to pick on. Well, we’re tired of it. You are akin to mosquitoes. Don’t expect your opposition to stay quiet anymore while you run roughshod with your prickles and stings. Your messiah Obama said quite plainly that you Lefties should get in the face of the opposition and shout them down. Now that’s an intelligent executive order, but it’s the only thing you understand. It’s all you are good for. Learn to read and quit parroting ignorance, try to improve yourselves while you search for your friggin’ nirvana. You stand around with your hands out and blame everyone but yourselves for your self-imposed problems. Learn how to hold an intelligent conversation. It’s all about noise and threats with you bunch and we are sick of your S**t. You guys better get in a huddle and rethink your technique because you are going to get a rude awakening matey.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/04/09, 01:50 PM EST
Hey, Heath, WTH is a smell DIPPER???

You still haven’t answered the question that people keep asking you: why do you think it’s OK for a political organization to try to suppress the free speech right of a private citizen?

You show are a blow hard. A gutless wonder, but a blowhard.

Posted by Randy Moses 02/04/09, 01:54 PM EST
O.K. ask away your questions. I am learning this “forum”.

A little background. I am retired military, so I do support and defend the constitution of the United States of America. I do support the right of all to say what they wish, as long as it is legal, I don’t have to agree however. I look at the situation as it is now and ask how can it be made better. I don’t dwell in the past, and I can not predict the future, hopefully I can deal with the present. I despise all who have shown themselves to be greedy at the expense of others, and will bad mouth them at every opportunity. I place Rush in that category, the rest of your arguments are mute as far as I am concerned,

Ya know who.

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 01:58 PM EST
wb heath, you are still showing your ignorance. For one thing you have no idea of my age. Two I’ve never worn a dipper in my life. Three, because I believe in a person’s right to FREE SPEECH I’m a “sheep”. Are you really that stupid.

You’re “dead set against egotism”?? Re-read your post , moron.

What’s the matter, can’t you answer THE QUESTION?

Posted by lynn 02/04/09, 01:58 PM EST

The question is this: do you think it’s right for a political organization to try to silence the right to free speech of a private citizen?

Posted by lynn 02/04/09, 01:59 PM EST
this heath guy is a nut job—another ill informed liberal who thinks he knows it all.

Huge ego, uneducated slob who can’t read and attacks anyone that tries to point out his stupidity.

Says he supports the constitution and people’s right to say what they want (as long as it’s someone he agrees with, evidently). This whole blog is about one thing: free speech.

And he’s taking the position that the DCCC is right. Well, guess what, he’s against Free Speech.

Period. End of discussion of the jerk w b heath.

Posted by Semper Fidelis in San Diego 02/04/09, 02:04 PM EST
W. B. Heath,

Ha! For somebody with such a *thick resume*, you sure have an abundance of NOTHING to contribute to the ACTUAL ISSUE of free speech.


That’s it. Don’t let these commie liberals get away with all these red herrings.

Let’s keep asking the question until someone from the DCCC decides to answer:

Is it right for the DCCC to assault the right to free speech of a private citizen?


This proves that liberals are socialist commies.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 02:19 PM EST
I’d hate to think it, but I think Brandon’s post above hits right on the mark. The question here really is about freedom of speech, and Liberals cannot answer that question because if they did, it would make them look like fools. Rush Limbaugh sometimes says things that are difficult to listen to, but I’ll have to admit, he’s mostly right. Even when I don’t like what he says, I’ll have to admit that he’s mostly right.

Now, if I were a Liberal, I would get upset when I hear something that Rush was saying that I didn’t like. Instead, he makes me think. Perhaps this is the difference… perhaps THE fundamental difference… between conservative and liberal people.

So, to get to the point… Rush makes Liberals feel BAD. Because Liberalism is all about “feelings”, they (the Liberals, I mean) can’t possibly have someone like Rush Limbaugh on the air making them feel BAD. So, in their minds, Rush Limbaugh has to go.

So much for Freedom of Speech… if you make someone feel BAD, you have no right to talk.

Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 02/04/09, 03:35 PM EST

Is it right for the DCCC to assault a private citizen’s right to free speech?

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 03:50 PM EST
The DCCC is feeding on the emotions of Liberals by attacking Rush Limbaugh in this manner. In that regard, they are MORALLY WRONG to be doing so. With regard to freedom of speech… well, I think we are all in agreement there.

Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 02/04/09, 04:19 PM EST
Stephen Hayes,

That’s right, we ARE all in agreement on the issue of free speech ... INCLUDING democraps, even though they cannot admit it.

As you said: Admitting that they agree about free speech would make them look really REALLY stoopid. Which is why they post about everything BUT the issue rather than answering the question:


... Well, democraps?

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 04:37 PM EST
Now that we’ve re-focused on the ACTUAL ISSUE of free speech, here’s how I signed the DCCC’s petition:


As a citizen of the United States of America, I am outraged that Rush Limbaugh, a private citizen like me, would have the audacity to impose his negative opinions about the Obama administration on the 1/6th of the American population that listens to him. Has he no decency? No reverence, no respect for government? Is it really so hard for this man to graciously support the efforts of the current elected majority, even if he disagrees with them? When the tables were turned and his party was in power, his side was never met with such egregious atrocities. Democrats, liberal radio, and Americans everywhere, regardless of race, age, or gender, worked tirelessly to come together and express their support for the Bush administration. At times, some may have observed, predicted, or just out-right delcared failure - But not one time did anybody ever express such morbid desire for president Bush and his party to fail. Why should Limbaugh receive special privileges?

Our constitution unambiguously prohibits any criticism of government by the private sector. We must speak with one voice to show Rush Limbaugh that he is no exception: I call on the government of the United States to storm the EIB network and forcefully remove Mr. Limbaugh from the seat of power that he has abused for 20 years, speaking all-too freely about the things he does not like about targeted demographics. Let him become an example to any and all others in the private sector who might dare violate the constitution of our great nation by criticizing the government. Let us all bend over and grab our ankles in support of ALL our elected officials, black men or white women, republican or democrat, even when we strongly disagree with them. Give us government, or give us death!

Concerned citizen,
Brandon, PA

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 04:46 PM EST

Any libs ready to weigh in?

Is it right for the DCCC to assault a private citizen’s right to free speech?

To paraphrase Heath.. “All other comments are moot”

Insults - Moot
Name Calling - Moot
Bringing up Rush’s personal failings - Moot

Answering the question in front of us.. Priceless

Is it right for the DCCC to assault a private citizen’s right to free speech?

Is it right for the DCCC to assault a private citizen’s right to free speech?

Is it right for the DCCC to assault a private citizen’s right to free speech?

Is it right for the DCCC to assault a private citizen’s right to free speech?

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/04/09, 05:31 PM EST
#452. You ain’t no Marine, don’t be using their motto, you haven’t earned that right. I said all have that right to say what they want as long as it is legal and that includes the DCCC. Also don’t be calling me names, it just proves how immature you really are. What did I do, make you stop and think? You notice that I do not use the same tired, worn out arguments of others. Frankly I don’t much give a damn about them. I do however care about what is currently going on, and believe it or don’t I have already emailed the president with some ideas on perhaps how to help. Remember the congress and senate are the ones who pass the legislation. I think a good many of you need to go back to high school and pay more attention in government class. I also vaguely recall where Rush has called for the silence of a few Democrats, but I could be mistaken, after all you think he is so above board and such a supporter of free speech himself.

Ya know who!

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 05:55 PM EST
W. B. Heath,

Are you seriously this dense? The difference is that RUSH is a private citizen. He can call for the silence of whomever he d*mn well pleases!

Now, for the government to do the same thing ... That’s a whole different matter, wouldn’t you agree?

Ah, but that’s the issue you are still ignoring, because if you actually confront what’s going on, you’re party looks like the royal commie *SS they chose as their mascot.

So how’s about you take a shot at that question? I know you won’t, because you just can’t admit the truth, that your party is the party of LIMITED speech, not free speech:


Posted by Brandon in PA 02/04/09, 06:23 PM EST
Heath, you have once again proven yourself to be an astronomical a$$. You think by reading a few words you know anything about ME? You sound more stupid by the minute. You words tell a lot about you.

I’m sure the president is eagerly awaiting your message.

You still won’t answer the question will you, coward?

Posted by Semper Fidelis in San Diego 02/04/09, 06:40 PM EST
ole heath is just doing what all dems do: attack you personally, never answer when questioned, sling mud, and finally make a total and complete fool of themselves.

he’s losing it, friends. feel his rage. laugh laugh laugh

i’m with the others heath: answer the damn question or go away mr. chicken

Posted by Mac Aroni in Cheese Country 02/04/09, 06:47 PM EST
ow yew doin today my friend, wb? i’m telling you its gitting harder n harder to cover yur back, my man. yur getting kinda out there as they say. no fense intertended.

is yer woman one of them gypsies or sumpin, wb? I’ve bin scratchin my head and thats all I kin figger out how yew know all bout these folks by jes reading what they writ.

yew sure are throwin a lot of that mud we was talking bout yestiddy – and yew are top notch on the rantin, i’ll give yew that, my man but, as yer friend i gotta tell yew either answer the quesyun or go away til about two in the morning when all of these yahoos are asleep. i’m tryin to hep yew here, my friend

affer all we is on the same page and think jes alike. why dont yew jes tell him how we think, wb? The stinkin 1st mendment is for librals only. Who wants to hear any conservatives think much less talk, huh, buddy? Affer all, we is in power and we ain’t losing it agin, are we, wb? So who cares bout innyone else – heck we are the ones, now. lets shut em fer good, rite, wb?

now, wb I’d lay off that miluhterry stuff. My pappy and my granpappy was miluterry and wb, yew know I like yew, but yew don’t xactly sound like miluterry. I’m startin to dowt you a little. an I don’t wanna dowt yew, wb,cuz we’s jes alike.

an 1 mure peace of advis, wb – lay off a that greed stuff – i mean, have yew looked at our bunch. jess a few minits ago I saw where our man baracks campain manger is gitting a few cool mil for writing some book (as if WE read, right, wb? Heh heh). We got sum greedy gusses of our own, my man.

i’ll be here threw the nite to watch yer back, wb.

affer all, us smart democrats need to stick together agin these dumb clucks that think we are gonna answer any of there quesyuns, right? we’s in power now. We don’t have to.

The idiots….

yer a gud man, wb. yew b cool. we’s jes alike, yew n me. jes alike.

Posted by BigMouthBubba 02/04/09, 07:10 PM EST
“I said all have that right to say what they want”

So, your saying the attempts to silence Rush is wrong??

Just trying to read between the lines, because, as usual, the question has not been answered.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/04/09, 08:34 PM EST
I just had an epiphany. I see why Libs can’t answer the question about Free Speech. Free Speech does not come for free because the rest of us have and will pay dearly for it so they really don’t understand the concept. It does not parallel with such Liberal ideals as free lunch, free medical care, free housing and the like. Hey Libs, the Government does not wave a magic wand and pay for this stuff, WE citizens pay for it. Or didn’t anybody tell you that? Oh, that’s right, you don’t pay for anything - you are the recipients. When Libs attempt to utilize what is commonly referred to as Free Speech, it must fall under certain guidelines for their double standard philosophy (Example) “I can bad mouth your representative but don’t you dare say anything negative about mine.” One day when you pull your fingers out of your ears, you will realize just what Obama means by Change. Might be too late though and then you’ll really have something to whine about.


Posted by Ruggy 02/04/09, 08:37 PM EST
What is it exactly that you want me to answer? Do I think Rush is entitled to free speech? I think I have answered that. Do I think the DCCC can ask to silence him? The answer to that is also yes. You call me names, question my sanity, but not a one of you have said what you would do or have the president do to improve our current situation, so who is the jack asses? Isn’t it strange how the Republican party has been so defeated in the past few elections? Is Rush an obstructionist? In my humble opinion, yes. Can we ask for him to shut the F up? I also say hell yes. Now if you want to post some intelligent questions for me, I’ll answer then to the best of my ability, other than that, I am now going to ignore the rest. Isn’t it strange as to how many of you are scared to post your names to your rants and raves, gee that doesn’t say anything about you!

Again you know who/

Posted by W, B. Heath 02/04/09, 09:30 PM EST
“What is it exactly that you want me to answer? Do I think Rush is entitled to free speech? I think I have answered that.”

Actually, you haven’t. Simple yes or no.

But your stripes are definitely showing when you said you think it is OK for a political party to call for the silencing of a private citizen.

Posted by Randy Moses 02/04/09, 09:33 PM EST
Oh yes I forgot to say. I have been and a registered Republican since the days of Berry Goldwater, an I am still a registered Republican. I hope to see the party completely revamped. Rush Limbaugh does not speak for me, and I sure as hell hope not for the Republican party either.

Yup, it’s W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 09:44 PM EST
“What is it exactly that you want me to answer? Do I think Rush is entitled to free speech? I think I have answered that.”

Actually, you haven’t. Simple yes or no.

Posted by Randy Moses 02/04/09, 09:46 PM EST
It’s amazing how this obviously uneducated man rants and raves, but refuses to answer a simple yes or no question.

Someone ought to tell him, I suppose, that anyone can use any name they want to on a blog. His name may be W B Heath or it may be Ima Jackass. Who knows? You can’t believe anything he says anyway. What a bitter hate filled man.

Posted by Jack Gray 02/04/09, 09:54 PM EST

Intelligent question related to this particular blog entry 1;

Do you support the calls to re-instate the Fairness Doctrine, or similar laws?

Intelligent question related to this particular blog entry 2;

What is it that Rush says that you do not agree with? Please provide specifics that can be verified, that are in context.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/04/09, 09:55 PM EST

Oh but I did answer the question. Apparently you do not like the idea of a group having free speech. Can’t be a one way street my friend. Also there are limitations as to what one can say also. I.E. yelling “fire” in a crowded area when there is no fire will get your butt thrown in jail. I think Rush has come close to that scenario on a few occasions. Gee I hope that didn’t go over to many of your heads, speaking metaforicly appears to be a tad bit difficult for some of you to grasp.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 09:58 PM EST
Might want to learn how to spell those words before you use them (hint: it’s metaphorically). You look like a fool when you spell it like you did and in the same sentence imply that it is US that is stupid. But go ahead, jackasses always amuse the masses. And we are definitely amused.

Give a simple YES or no to this question:

Is Rush entitled to free speech?

(and BTW I haven’t heard Rush yell “fire”—if you are still under the impression that Rush said he wanted Obama to fail, then you still haven’t learned to read or listen because the actual transcript of the statement and the link to the UNEDITED audio have been on this thread and the other one countless times).

Posted by Jack Gray 02/04/09, 10:07 PM EST
Just humor us—simple YES or NO

Posted by Jack Gray 02/04/09, 10:08 PM EST

I am more educated than you will ever hope to be. No I am not bitter nor am I hateful, but I am sure getting more educated from reading the posts on this blog. I didn’t realize just how bad our education system really is, nor how many damn sheep we have.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 10:08 PM EST
Funny! Let’s see what you know about some of us:

Never been in the military.
Not as educated as you.
Way younger than you and wear dirty dippers.
If we don’t agree with you we are sheep.

You’re a real seer, that’s for sure, W.B. Must be the smartest man in the world. No other way for you to know it. You don’t spell all that well, yet you mock us for out lowly educations.

I think that’s what we’ll call you: the smartest man in the world

Bye, Smartest Man in the World. (But we’ll always THINK of you as an idiot)

Posted by Jack Gray 02/04/09, 10:14 PM EST
He still hasn’t given us a simple yes or no.

Posted by Randy Moses 02/04/09, 10:14 PM EST
I’ve been lurking for a while here—you guys are funny. Way back in my dating days we always knew that the guy that bragged the most was the biggest loser.

I don’t know but “I am more educated than you will ever hope to be” just screams that the opposite is true.

Just one of my life observations.

Well, my baby is crying—must be a dirty dipper.....

Posted by Trish 02/04/09, 10:17 PM EST
Sorry about the typos, but I am 100% disabled with a vision problem. I do run them through spell checker, but some mistakes do still occur.

I also do believe that Rush has been bashing the Democrats for a long time now and I do not need to post items to that effect, nor will I.

Again, you can now answer some of my questions. What would you have the congress, senate or president do to help solve the current problems? What positive suggestions has Rush made to that regard?

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 10:21 PM EST
Here you go, Smartest Man in the World:

That was Rush’s OP ED piece in the Wall Street Journal. Pretty impressive stuff.

Here’s what I’d do (though this blog is not about that subject, but since you asked). Tax cuts—capital gains cuts to encourage investment—cuts for small businesses. Cut the PORK out of the so-called stimulus bill. We don’t need $335,000,000 for STD studying,for example, though there are thousands of such examples.

And the biggest? Do what Ron Paul has been saying for years: get back on the gold standard.

Oh, yeah, and take out the “tax cuts” to people that pay no taxes because that’s just more welfare.

Just for starters.

Posted by Jack Gray 02/04/09, 10:33 PM EST

If you wish to take the high ground, stop claiming to be smarter/better educated, etc, and insulting our collective educations. Just answer the questions. Conservative and Liberals here, please also don’t use every typo and miss-spelled word as some sort of excuse to ignore the content of somebody’s statement. We ALL make mistakes we don’t spot until after we hit the “Submit” button.

You HAVE answered that you think Rush has the right. I agree.

Now, Please answer my followups. I am actually curious what a confessed Republican has to say.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/04/09, 10:38 PM EST
Good points, Chris—but it’s hard not to point out when the smartest guy in the world is saying how much smarter he is than the rest of the world.

And it’s misspelled. :) Sorry, couldn’t resist. That’s my last one. Swear.

Posted by Jack Gray 02/04/09, 10:41 PM EST
Last post for this night. Yes I do think that not a single one of you who have made post here have one idea of your own. You rant and rave, and say how Rush has been picked on.I have heard this crap on almost every talk radio show I ever listened to, that Is why I don’t listen any longer. I qualified my answer to you, and you did not like it because it was not what you wanted to hear. No I am not the smartest person in the world, and yes I could write better, but I don’t see much except zealot rants and raves from any of you.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 10:42 PM EST
#481. Thank you, at last some ideas, now pass them on to the congress, senate and the president. As to being smart, that was in reply to one who questioned my intelligence. I am smart enough to know that there are individuals out there who have forgot more than I will ever know. I do also know that smart people do not have to resort to personal attacks to get their point across.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 10:52 PM EST
Watch this, Answers;

“What would you have the congress, senate or president do to help solve the current problems?”
Considering the enumerated powers, NOTHING. It is not in their contract with us to be able to do anything (That contract being the Constitution). Poor decisions should not be rewarded. The companies should fail, so those that are making the right decisions can rise up and take their place.

On the other hand, lowering taxes would help. It would not reward the poor decisions, would be good for all, and would not really be an unconstitutional response to a private sector issue. (That of course is not discussing the constitutionality of Income Tax itself. That is for another day)

“What positive suggestions has Rush made to that regard?”
Lots, if you listen to him. For a more detailed answer see WSJ article linked above.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/04/09, 10:52 PM EST
His last post. I think I’ll go have a beer and celebrate.

I’m sure you are still lurking, WB, so there you go again assuming things. Sir, I call and email my reps and Senators AT LEAST once a week. In the past few days my subjects to them have been about the stimulus bill and about Daschle. I remind them at every opportunity that my memory is very long.

Quit assuming, WB—some of us out here have some brains. And some of us have been around as long or longer than you. And we know what we are supposed to do.

Posted by Jack Gray 02/04/09, 10:57 PM EST
“I do also know that smart people do not have to resort to personal attacks to get their point across.”

UH, WB Heath, you MIGHT want to re-read what you’ve posted. You are pretty bad about personal attacks.

Posted by Trish 02/04/09, 11:00 PM EST
If I have indeed made personal attacks in any other area except self defense, I do hereby apologize. I will now say that yes Rush has the right to free speech. I just don’t always agree with him. I will also say that censorship is not right either.

It is ideas, and pressure on congress, the senate and the president that will help solve our problems in my humble opinion, and that is much more important than if Rush should be allowed to speak his mind. Now if we are all in agreement, I am off to bed.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/04/09, 11:15 PM EST
Where in the world did the Democrat Party dig up Pelosi? She can’t tell the difference between 500 million and 500,000...maybe not even 5,000...that’s right, she is the Speaker not the person who knows anything.

Posted by Raindear 02/04/09, 11:58 PM EST
hey guys, can we please spam the other blogs on this website, too? I’m sure there’s lots more cool (?) stuff on here we can totally demolish, in an intellectual way of course

Posted by JohnathanQuest in upstate ny 02/05/09, 01:19 AM EST
YEAH!!! Don’t just comment on this blog entry.. comment all over this site.. I have been having a blast doing that. We have to keep up the pressure. Don’t get bored and stop commenting here. Make it one of you home pages!!

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/05/09, 04:11 AM EST
Ok, let’s not forget: W. B. Heath stated that he is in favor of Demoncraps, a POLITICAL party seeking control of the GOVERNMENT, undermining the free speech rights of a private citizen.


Posted by Brandon in PA 02/05/09, 09:12 AM EST
You must know that this is not the first time the Democraps have tried to silence rush ...


And then Rush turned around and SOLD the petition, donating the money to our troops? HA! That was rich.

So this is not just about this PARTICULAR attempt by commie demoncraps to undermine the first amendment - It is just the most recent of MANY attempts.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/05/09, 09:15 AM EST
#493. Where do you get off? I don’t recall saying what you credit me with. Hay folks this must be one of your smart ditto heads, and they call me dumb?

Ya all scream about the first amendment. Well where is it stated that an audience is guaranteed to hear what you have to say? I also do believe that anyone or any group can request a review of an individuals FCC license and petition for the revocation of such license. I guess you all would do away with all this however. Gee democracy at work must be very troublesome to you all.

Now on some forums what has been posted here would get you banned, is this a denial of free speech or the right of the site owner to control their property? Does the airway belong to the public or just Rush Limbaugh?

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/05/09, 12:31 PM EST
warning be very careful in what you call me, or you will find out all about the legal rights of an individual when I sue your butt.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/05/09, 12:38 PM EST
Heath, you wrote:
“you will find out all about the legal rights of an individual when I sue your butt.”

Why not do it? Frivolous lawsuits are perfectly acceptable Liberal way to make a quick and easy income.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/05/09, 01:40 PM EST
Turns out Brandon was right… seems like we are all in agreement with regard to Freedom of Speech. The sad part is that most people look at Freedom of Speech as a “right” and refer to it as “the right to free speech”. The fact is that Freedom of Speech is a Liberty, not a right.

The difference between a Liberty and a right is the same as the difference between something that is won and that which is given. That which is given can always be taken away. Most Americans, I fear, either don’t realize or just plain forget that the first citizens of our Great Country had to fight for their original freedom from England. Those original freedoms, those Liberties, are passed on to us as “rights” guaranteed to us by our Constitution, and are known today as Constitutional Rights.

The Constitution of the United States of America is “law”, and laws can be changed. Our greatest challenge today is maintaining these rights, lest we have to fight for them again once they have been taken away.

Some excellent (albeit somewhat dry) reading on the subject of liberty -

John Stuart Mill (1859) - “On Liberty”

Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 02/05/09, 04:24 PM EST
#497. Libel is the written act of defamation. How frivolous is that for you?

W, B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/05/09, 08:49 PM EST
Chris D:

1. I do not see one shred of reason anywhere on this message board.

2. The financial meltdown began LONG before the gas prices went down. And I believe deregulation was the mantra of Senator McCain while it was Obama who two years prior had gone to wall street to try and warn these stupid bank CEO’s of what was coming.

3. Let’s try picking a credible source instead of just lazily posting a youtube link displaying a grouping of cut sound bites that take everything out of context and was obviously put together by a conservative with an agenda.

4. GW is stupid and deserves every insult ever hurled at him, including the shoes. He’s a murderer and a war criminal. And you’re all sore losers.

And Lynn:

How can Joe go back to school to learn to read when Republican raiding of education funds have turned schools into baby sitting centers? I’m sure Joe is well-educated; probably more so than you are. Talk about harboring hate! When you have nothing constructive to say, you resort to personal attacks that prove no point. Way to go!!! Oh and in your post #450… “Are you really that stupid(?)” is a question and therefore, should be followed by a question mark not a period. Didn’t you learn that in English? If you’re going to insult someone else’s intelligence at least have the courtesy to proof read your post.

Posted by Conservatives Suck in USA 02/05/09, 09:10 PM EST

Granted, post 500, there are a lot of posts on this forum with insults and personal attacks, INCLUDING the ones you have posted (#435 is a prime example).

Even your name is insulting. Not just to conservatives but to anyone with even a modicum of class and decency. The word “su**” is so vulgar. But, it’s your right to say it.

Posted by Trish 02/05/09, 10:13 PM EST
To my fellow Rush supporters: the radio station that carries Rush here in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area has an online petition. If you would like to show him your support, here is the link:

And, of course, if you are not a Rush supporter, then feel free to insult me (as I know you will).

Posted by Trish 02/05/09, 11:08 PM EST
To ‘Defame’ means to attack someone’s reputation. I believe your reputation remains safe and intact. I would agree that insults are usually unnecessary and generally uncalled for but I would not bother to contact my lawyer and incur expenses at this point. You might have struck it lucky though if your middle name was Hussein and someone addressed you formerly. Any good Liberal attorney worth his salt could prove defamation in that case.

Posted by littlebuddie 02/06/09, 12:08 AM EST
C.S. (#500)

THX for at addressing things, rather than just slinging more insults. Of course, your ‘name’ is not exactly positive.

1) “I do not see one shred of reason anywhere on this message board.” That’s a bit inclusive. That would include any prior comments made by you, and fellow libs.

2) “The financial meltdown began LONG before the gas prices went down”. True. It started in 1974. under President Carter. Also, See answer for 3.

3) I have seen much longer segments, and legitimate news reports about this. It’s not exactly hidden knowledge. If you really need me to search youtube for you to find it, I could. But, it would only show that this summary is accurate, and that 7 times since 2001, Bush tried to increase regulation of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, but was stopped at every turn by Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, and other Democrats, who vehemently claimed that there was nothing wrong. It is a matter of record.

4) More insults. Bla Bla. Same old tired accusations. I want to address one specific in this realm. How do you feel about the Obama executive order regarding “Rendition”. If you don’t know, it’s a way for him to get terrorists TORTURED if necessary. My link is from the LIBERAL Los Angeles Times, so you can’t question the link, rather than the facts.,0,7548176,full.story

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/06/09, 01:05 AM EST
screw you left wing lunatics-time will show bamba boy will fail.

Posted by pete stone 02/06/09, 12:13 PM EST
#500. Thank you. At last an intelligent post. As a long time Republican I can tell you that I am very disappointed in them. I hope they can get their act together and once again become the party they used to be. For what it is worth, I do try and keep an eye on what the congress and senate are doing or not doing, and I frequently let my congress man and senator know that I have a very good long memory. I also will state that I am sick and tired of nothing being accomplished in Washington D.C., I can not say who is right and who is wrong on all of the problems we currently face, but I do know that something needs to be done and done in a damn quick hurry. I also do not want to see the failed policies of the past repeated. I also do not trust Wall Street any further than I can throw them, and do want to see the hell regulated out of them. I blame the speculators for a good many of our current problems, and want to see them outlawed. Gee I guess that would be a few of Rush’s buddies.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 01:18 PM EST
#503. Being called a COMMIE, may qualify, and if this type of thing continues we may see if a judge agrees with me.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 01:23 PM EST
W. B. Heath,

Ah, so the commie thing really bugs you, eh? Well, let’s think about this ...

The communist politicians in, say, China and Russia tell people to shut up when they don’t like what they’re saying.

The liberal politicians in America tell people to shut up when they don’t like what they’re saying.

Well GOLLY ... I friggin’ WONDER where I could EVER have gotten the idea that liberals are acting like commies! Where on EARTH did I get the impression that we are talking about EXACTLY THE SAME THING with different labels? GOSH!?

You still don’t get it. There is a DIFFERENCE between the free market telling somebody to shut up and the government telling somebody to shut up.

You’re in favor of the government telling a private citizen to shut up. That makes you a “commie” in my book. That makes you, and voters like you, a threat to my freedoms as an American.

And in case that doesn’t give you enough to submit to your judge: You, Mr. W. B. Heath, are a communist goon who doesn’t give a rat’s *ss about my first amendment rights.

A judge? Hahahahaha .... [gasps for air] ... hahahaha ...

God, what a good laugh i just had.

Posted by Brandon in PA 02/06/09, 02:17 PM EST
#508. Last warning. DCC I now also submit this as a formal complaint. I have not attacked this individual, but I am getting real tired of his attacks on me. I want them stopped and stopped now. If this individual can not post without resorting to persona; attacks, I want him banned from this blog. I will sue if I have to, but I would rather let you take care of this situation.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 02:42 PM EST
W. B. Heath,

I hate to break this to you, but there is virtually no way the DCCC could do anything about #508 short of shutting this forum down completely. Even blocking the IP address, #508 could just find some other computer and post from there. EVEN identifying ALL of the computers that this person uses to post comments, you would have no way to identify WHICH of these computers’ users was the culprit. Moreover, none of these things could be figured out with YOU, either, unless you want to go ahead and volunteer some personal information. So, defamation? Defamation against WHOM, exactly?

And suing somebody? Ha, good luck with that. No self-respecting judge would ever take your case, and I’m sure #508 would just LOVE to see the DCCC sued by one of their constituents.

Anonymity’s a real bi-atch, ain’t it?


Posted by ANONYMOUS in PA 02/06/09, 03:13 PM EST
#510. Just the opposite, I am a very strong supporter of free speech. I also am in full favor of an individuals or groups right to call for the review and even revocation of an individuals FCC license. I am in full favor of seeing democracy work, even if it does not always agree with my ideas or the way I would like to see things done. I am sorry but I don’t see the “government” trying to put a stop to the freedom of speech, only the DCC (not a branch of the government) asking individuals to sign a petition to have Rush looked at an perhaps his FCC license revoked. Do I think that would happen? Not likely! I also contend that this makes me more of a patriot. I see a good deal of intolerance being demonstrated by the post being made here. You may be right about suing, and it could be a big hassle, but I will reserve that decision.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 03:44 PM EST
W. B. Heath,

One of the three C’s in DCCC is “Campaign”. Campaign for what? CONTROL of the GOVERNMENT. The free citizens of the United States ought to be VERY wary of a political organization *specifically designed* for winning control of government, that seeks to limit the free speech of private individuals - They may very well turn it into law. You think it doesn’t happen?

I wonder, how did you feel about all your *elected* democrat members of congress petitioning to have Rush silenced? You remember ... it was that petition that Rush shoved right back down their throats by auctioning it off on eBay. Hahaha, now that was rich.

If you think that limiting free speech is not the MODUS OPERANDI of the democrat party, then you are dying the death of a slow boil. And you’re dragging my first amendment rights down along with you.

As for suing ... Talk is cheap (But it’s still the biggest laugh I got all day).

Posted by ANONYMOUS in PA 02/06/09, 04:11 PM EST
#512. “Talk is cheap”. Do you mean Rush? So you are a hypocrite? Thought you were all in favor of “free” speech, so long as it is only yours? Only your selective rights are allowed, all other ones don’t apply? News flash, the first amendment is not the only one, and there are other rights individuals and groups have, but I guess to deny those is o.k.? Gee I must be a COMMIE to want to see all rights, no matter to whom they may apply protected not just a selective few regardless if I may personally agree with them or not. Dang folks I guess I am not interested in seeing you have liberty after all.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 04:31 PM EST
My, W. B. Heath, for somebody who hates to answer questions, you sure ask a lot of them. ANSWER THE BLOODY QUESTION. Then I’ll decide if any of your questions are relevant.

I’m looking forward to watching you try to sue me or the DCCC. Hahahahahahaaaaaa

Posted by Brandon ... or ANONYMOUS ... or Who Knows! in PA 02/06/09, 04:45 PM EST
It continues to be the case that as I look around at what is happening in this screwed up world, the things Rush DESCRIBES seem to match much more closely the things I SEE than anything the left tries to put in front of me. The Left’s attempts at deceit only reinforce my commitment to Limbaugh’s Conservative Studies and the Conservative view. Thank God for Rush!

Posted by Truthseeker in Ohio 02/06/09, 04:52 PM EST
#514. I have answered you on several occasions, you apparently don’t read or are not seeing what you want to see. As for suing, I may or may not, but you can keep guessing. You know nothing about me, nor whether I have made or not made inquiries into this area, and if I do or do not stand a chance to own your butt. You may however not want to take people lightly, it could just come back and bite your rear. Also don’t be smug enough to think that there are not ways to find our exactly from where you are posting.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 05:09 PM EST

Will you sue me for telling you that are a Troll. At first I believed you were sincere. But your constant ridiculous threats do nothing to contribute the the discussion. Others here, please stop responding to anything he says other than perhaps his asking or answering a real topic. WB, if you are for real, you will stop threatening us and stick to the topics too.

For instance.

In Post 504 I responded to post 500, and asked a further question. WB, do you think you are up to answering #4, without threatening me too?

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/06/09, 05:31 PM EST
No troll. I will defend myself and take into account any and all options I may have available. Here is another attempt to answer what I think are your questions.

(1) I do strongly support the right of lawful free speech.

(2) I would vehemently oppose any legislative body trying to introduce legislation to do away with free speech.

(3) I do support the rights of others to use all of their rights not just some of them.

(4) I support groups right to circulate and seek signatures on petitions.

(5) I support the rights of all to require accountability in broadcasting.

(6) I support more than just a one political party system.

(7) I support the rule of law.

Does this now answer your questions? Yes I am sincere in my posts and did not start the personal attacks. Believe it or don’t the owners of sites are subject to various laws and I fully expect them to comply with those laws. I also do not abdicate my right to avail myself the use of any applicable legal remedy for a perceived injustice, nor would I require that of any other individual, if that makes me a troll so be it.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 09:14 PM EST
“The American people want us to work together - they don’t want to see us dividing along partisan lines on the most serious crisis confronting our country.”
Senator Susan Collins

This sort of says a good deal I think, and I could not agree more. Looks like a bill will be passed shortly.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 09:38 PM EST
WILL YOU GUYS STOP THE PISSING CONTEST???? Exchange email addresses and duke it out there.

Mr. Heath, you have some valid points. Brandon, Chris, Anonymous or whoever the heck any of you are, you have some valid points.

Where ALL of you lose credibility is when you start calling names, commie, troll, blah, blah, blah.

Guess what? It’s boring. It’s also childish. I doubt you will ever agree on most things. But I think both sides agree that the First Amendment should be protected which is what this blog is about.

How about agreeing to quit? No one gets the last word.

Well, let me have the last words: enough already!!!

Posted by Sara 02/06/09, 09:41 PM EST
#520. O.k. by me.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 10:03 PM EST
I’m blowing you a kiss, Mr. Heath. I’d do the little emoticon thing, but I’m not very good at that…

Posted by Sara 02/06/09, 10:04 PM EST
#522. Thank you.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/06/09, 11:08 PM EST
Yeah, this thread is to long now anyway. I will concentrate on the newer blog postings.

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/06/09, 11:48 PM EST
So what’s next; since the liberal talk shows don’t last because the aren’t based on truth, or offer viable, or moral comments and solutions to their listeners they plan to do away with this:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

In case you need a little help; I believe everything I hear and refuse to check it out because it inconveniences my personal and social(ist) agenda; that’s the First Amendment of the Constitution; which would mean that you are trying to squash your own right to speak as you fell, as a free thinking human being living here in the USA.
“Change,” is not good just for change sake, and Rush, and anyone else, has every right to speak and argue that point with President Obama, and/or anyone; FREELY!
Our Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves right now!
Wake up people; you’re nailing shut your own coffins! and our children will be no more than serfs to the good ole boys!
Read everything above me, you folks can’t compete because you arguments are unGODLY, and un-American!

Posted by Terry Pfrang in Sand Diego 02/07/09, 03:21 PM EST
Rush Limbaugh, never liked you, never will. You’re nothing but a bald mixture of Big Mouth Stern with the mentality of GWB. You conveniently and continuously utilize your stupid propagandic tactics to manipulate the public away from the TRUE issues. If you spent half as much time trying something CONSTRUCTIVE with your antagonisms your comments may actually become useful.

You have no right to critic a party that has been VOTED into a disaster that your beloved party created in the first place. The Republicans have been doing nothing but screwing and stealing from the working class since the Ronnie days. If you don’t recognize this, you’re even more of an idiot than I thought.

I believe Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile wrote an entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.” As long as we continue to allow BIG BUSINESS to buy our legislative process this country is doomed.

I have some insight for you. The facist are here all right. Have you ever considered the fact that the real freedom loving Americans know truth about all your Republican buddies motivations and are more concerned about it leading to another civil war than any of the trivial topics you discuss? Get your head out of your a _ _ and see the light.

Posted by Brit Garrison 02/07/09, 04:17 PM EST
“real freedom loving Americans know truth about all your Republican buddies motivations”

I had to answer this one.

What about the liberal not so secret Socialist motivations? What about the liberal anti-family motivations? What about the Democrats screwing the country under with so much spending it makes Bush’s overspending look like a trip to the 99cent store, all motivated by the desire to remain in power, no matter how bad it is for the country?

You talk civil war! I agree. Taxes are so bad we need a new tea party. Throw the bums out.. ALL OF THEM!!!

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/07/09, 05:26 PM EST
In an attempt to punish the past, they are are willing to destroy the future.

I didn’t vote for Bush either time - I’m a libertarian. But I am so tired of the anti-Bush people jumping up and down like a bunch of chickens flapping their wings and squawking BUSH BUSH BUSH every single time there is disagreement with this administration.

In my opinion Bush was not a good president. He wasn’t a conservative, that’s for sure. He only vetoed 12 bills in his entire presidential career - he loved to spend.

But just because he screwed up is no reason not to examine the new policies and policymakers with close scrutiny.

Posted by Trish 02/07/09, 05:34 PM EST
When Billy was in office our budget was in in the positive. GWB and Dr. Evil ARE responsible for this nightmare because of their associations with special interest groups NOT THE PEOPLE.

Ronnie’s Republicans did the same by lending our tax dollars to big business to create jobs in the US that wound up getting invested in Mexico and China to cut labor expenses.

You can talk all the “tax and spend” BS lies you want, and complain about civil rights programs created to help fellow Americans but paying taxes anywhere is a civil responsibility. The bill is not perfect but it’s a step in the right direction.

So, if anyone on this blog has a problem with working together for the benefit of their fellow Americans calling THAT “socialism” maybe THEY are the ones who should get back on the boat and go back where they came from.

Posted by Britt Garrison 02/07/09, 08:40 PM EST
Dang. I agree will you all give it a rest! Lets have some more Enron’s and some more Kenneth Lays. Lets keep bickering and watch our country go down the tubes. Lets not try and give viable suggestions and ideas to our elected representatives. Lets not hold them accountable. Lets believe everything we hear or see being broadcast. Lets not use any common sense what so ever. Lets keep fighting and calling each other names.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W. B. Heath 02/07/09, 09:20 PM EST
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

Posted by Chesty Puller 02/14/09, 05:01 AM EST
Reading all the comments is very interesting to say the least.
What i do not understand is what was so great about the BUSH years????????? 8 years of intrigues,lying,special interests to the gazoo and this goes on and on.
This country is in a deep crisis,brought about by a lot of factors.A war initiated by Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld etc. is this something to be proud of????
Finally some fresh wind blowing through the White House and this country!!!Was about time.
It takes all of us to rethink, approach things differently in all matters.How about working together rather then against each other?? To change attitudes, seeing each other as equal beings living on this planet,who breathe the same air. Why bash each other?
Waking up to a new way of thinking,acting from the heart and embracing one another even if we do things differently.
Just some food for thought.Open your hearts fellow humans!!!
Aloha to all Anna

Posted by Anna Handler in Hawaii 02/15/09, 06:17 PM EST
Rush Limbaugh, voice of the Republican party, 659 pounds of babbling monkey spunk. Spewing propaganda, hate, lies, fear to all those suckling at his teat. Can anyone say Fairness Doctrine? I’ll write a song about that one. Sung to the tune of American Pie - THE DAY THE RIGHT WING CRIED…

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 10:21 AM EST
Idk in Virginia: talk about spewing hate! Have you read your post? kettle.

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 10:34 AM EST
Hi Amused, ah yes, but I have such a small audience. El Tubbo on the other hand reaches millions of ears hungry to hear something, anything. Its too bad that he has such a broad influence. Imagine what he could do if he focused on the unadulterated truth. But that wouldnt drive up his ratings, would it?

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 10:42 AM EST
You really are very rude and seem to be filled with hate. Too bad.

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 11:04 AM EST
Not so Amused. I’m filled with anger that so many Americans are being fleeced by constant distortion of the truth. Too many people listen to and believe everything Limbaugh says. Check the record - he’s been called over 50 times for reporting and basing presentations on fiction. This is pretty irresponsible for someone with such broad influence. The bad part is that he gets paid around $30M per year to spin these fictitious tales. I think most intelligent people would agree that he’s able to pull this kind of salary down due to the methods he uses AND that he could not do this if it weren’t for the way he distorts the truth.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 11:20 AM EST
But what’s the problem? Your guy won. End of story. Evidently Rush doesn’t have all that much influence. It’s a business—if enough people listen to make a profit, why are you so concerned? Free speech—it’s the First Amendment. Start your own talk show with your views—if you think you can make it. But, just a hint: don’t emulate Al Franken because he tanked.

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 11:27 AM EST
This is not about “my guy winning.” This is about the truth which should not be sacrificed in the name of free speech. Too many people are being blindly led by distortions which they fail to question. I hear many conservatives trumpet “wake up America” over and over as they bash Obama and his policies. My cry is “wake up America and hear the truth.” Not the truth as I believe it but the stark naked unadulterated truth—WE ARE BEING LIED TO ON A DAILY BASIS. Don’t believe everything you hear on TV, radio, the papers, or your buddies. Learn how to question, research, gauge and weigh the relevant and available information. Not sure I catch your reference to Al Franken.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 11:43 AM EST
I think a good many of you give the “ditto heads” way to much credit for intelligence,after all they will believe any thing that Ole pill pooping, over the hill, has been Rush tells them. Dang I didn’t know Rush had that much in with the almighty, but apparently people think otherwise as they worship him as if he were a God. Talk about your freedom of speech, they think what Rush says is the word of the almighty itself. Now how ya going to compete with that?

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/16/09, 12:53 PM EST
Heath - not so. To the contrary I think many of the “ditto heads” are merely unsuspecting Americans who believe anything they hear from El TuboLard simply because he’s on the radio and TV. It’s too bad that they can influence their elected officials based on Rush but don’t have the smarts to figure out he’s full of brown smelly stuff.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 01:08 PM EST
Sounds like some of you guys are jealous. Like a first grader: sling the mud and call names. Why don’t you start your own talk show and give him some competition? (Al Franken tried to have a talk show on Air America and he failed—how could you not know this, oh supremely intelligent, well-spoken One?

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 01:42 PM EST
Amused - oh, you’re talking about Franken’s radio show. Ok, yes I knew about that. No not jealous. Read my posts. People like Limbaugh need to be more responsible with that they say. Why? Simply because he/they have such large followings that blindly believe what he/they say. Not a good way to run a radio station. And yes, if I had the money I’d certainly do something like that. Takes big cash. Are you aware of who ultimately controls much of the conservative media here in the US including Limbaugh’s network and FOX? You’d be surprised. Hard to compete with that when you’re a little guy.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 01:56 PM EST
WB and IDK,

If you read my posts, it is immediately obvious to anyone that is honest, that I can think for myself, that I am using my own brain here, and that I am not just parroting what I hear from some media source. The same goes for most of the statements made here by other conservatives. That you would come to any other conclusion only proves your lack of an ability to think for yourself, or your willingness to distort the truth yourself, just to make your opponent look bad.

Some fact checking for you;
You said, “because he’s on the radio and TV”
If you didn’t know, Rush hasn’t had a TV show since 1996. But since you are just repeating what you heard, and don’t know the facts, you make statements like this that highlight your ignorance.

Another fact, for you fact challenged liberals, the only news source that does not provide a liberal bias is Fox News. Until Rush and Fox News came along, it was liberal tripe everywhere I turned. In the Paper, on the TV, on the Radio. And it is especially liberal on NPR, which my tax dollars are paying for. My own money being used to lie to me. Like many other Americans, I felt betrayed by the abdication of the journalistic responsibility that is spelled out in the constitution. I felt betrayed by the constant spin on the truth that was being presented as fact. Then Rush and later Fox news came along. Finally there was somebody saying the things I already felt. Voicing the concerns I already had on the direction our government was taking. Decrying the lies that CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/NPR constantly feed us disguised as the truth. Rush and Fox News are the ONLY source of truth in journalism in today’s news universe.

You said; “I’m filled with anger that so many Americans are being fleeced by constant distortion of the truth.”
I couldn’t agree more. Every time I hear the phrase “Global Warming” (no wait, since the warming stopped 10 years ago you had to stop using that phrase). can I start over with the current distortion? Every Time I hear the Phrase “Climate Change”, I marvel at the decay of the public education system. If people had a proper education, the “Climate Change” liars would have no followers. There is one simple FACT, not refutable, that completely undermines the entire ‘Climate Change’ argument. Biologist, and Former Governor of Washington, Dixy Lee Ray, in her book “Trashing the Planet” put it best when discussing the eruption of Mount Saint Helens in 1980;
“The eruption of Mt. St. Helens in 1980 dumped more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than all that has been released since the industrial revolution. Volcanoes have been erupting for millions of years with the same result. If this really affected climate, don’t you think it would have happened by now?”

Rush didn’t give me these facts, I went out and found them myself. Then I actually read them. Then I actually followed up and read the background material. Then I turned on my radio, and Rush had read the same facts, and come to the same conclusion. Rush was parroting my own thoughts. So I continue to listen, not because I don’t know what to think, but because I have a need to hear like minded, honest discussions of the world around us. When I turn on CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/NPR, I hear and see a constant communist/socialist/hate-American bias that makes me sick to my stomach, because I know that so many Americans are like you liberals here. You are so clueless that you don’t even know that you don’t know. You are completely fooled by the half-truths and hidden bias that is fed by CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/NPR. These people don’t have our best interested in mind, they are only thinking of increasing their power, at the expense of truth, justice, and the American Way.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/16/09, 02:14 PM EST
Chris D - good for you. Glad to hear that you feel you are doing due diligence to what you hear. Many do not. These are the ones I speak for. As for a liberal bias in the media, please prove it to me. A liberal bias means the media would most likely not vilify a liberal politician. News for ya, I’ve seen it happen many times. Ergo, no or very little liberal bias. The media needs to boost ratings and goes for the stories that will do that. As for Fox I, as an American, am ashamed that so many are swayed by a conservative mouth piece owned by a foreigner. And before you say Murdoch is indeed a citizen, ask yourself why? Merely so he could own and control US media interests.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 02:25 PM EST
To verify is a good thing, but as my ole daddy (deceased) used to say, “believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see”. Been trying to follow that advice for a long time now. Oh by the way, if you want to bye me a radio station, I’d be happy to start a talk show,

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/16/09, 03:07 PM EST
Why do you need a radio station to be bought for you????? No one bought Rush one. He’s a success—through hard work. Get to work—you don’t need a station. Go on your good ideas. I’m sure you’ll be a really big hit.

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 06:41 PM EST
Amused - yes, I’m quite amused by you. Rush El Tubbo is a success because he chooses to sensationalize his reporting by doctoring and inventing the truth. Everyone knows that media gets big ratings by sensationalized reporting. El Tub o’ Lard is no different than anyone else. Plain and simple. His “hard word” as you call it boils down to exploiting context of meaning and invention of “facts” to make THE LEFT look bad. If you deny that, then I feel very sorry for you and will pray for you and those like you before I sleep this evening.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 07:09 PM EST
Excuse me, “hard work” vice “hard word.” Thank you.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 07:11 PM EST
Well, get on your knees and start praying! :) He doesn’t have to try to make the left look bad—they do a good enough job on their own. Ever heard of Barney Frank?

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 07:30 PM EST

And if one can make it big in radio with lies and sensationalism, then what is Franken’s excuse? Did you ever listen to him? I did. Of course you didn’t—I had to tell you he had a radio program.

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 07:34 PM EST
Amused - as much as you would like to think (I’m sure) we are not all bad. There are bad apples on both sides and embarrassment enough for everybody. I don’t particularly like Barney Frank either or Nancy Pelosi for that matter.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 07:43 PM EST
Amused - you didnt read my post. Yes I knew Senator Franken had a radio program. I’ve been a fan of his for years.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/16/09, 07:45 PM EST
No, I don’t think you are all bad. I don’t like Pelosi either. And I can’t stand Bush or McCain. Or Palin. How ‘bout THAT? However, I do think that Rush has a right to be on the air. Criticize all you want, but he’s got a successful business. And, you know, you lose credibility when you do all of that name calling. It’s childish, and it’s hard to take a child seriously.

Posted by Amused at the Hypocrisy 02/16/09, 07:55 PM EST
It’s sadly funny how I can bring up so many facts, and how that nobody even acknowledges them. You insincerely admit I can think, but then dismiss the others that have agreed with me. You do so, without once actually discussing the facts. You ask for examples, which I readily give, thus proving my points, and then do not counter with your own facts. You then ask for further proof, without providing anything to back up your statements. I could fill the servers with examples of liberal bias in the mainstream media, without even breaking a sweat. If you could think for yourself, you would acknowledge this bias. But, no, you instead continue to attack Rush, without providing any proof yourself. You have stated Rush is biased, but have not provided any proof.

All of these telling actions prove the point that has been made so clearly many times here;

You will not, for whatever the reason, prove yourselves in an honest discussion of the facts. You instead rely on repeating the lies that you have heard on the mainstream media, and aren’t even self-aware enough to realize you are being used.

If the future of the world wasn’t on the line, this would be funny. But, the future is on the line, and you insist on being on the wrong side. It’s not only not funny, it borders on treason. Yeah, I said it, treason. If you cannot or will not seek the truth, you deserve to be called on it. You deserve to be told your behavior is not in your or my best interest. You deserve to be told that your hair brained beliefs are so bad for this country that many consider it treason.

I have proven my points, it is now your turn to do the same.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/16/09, 08:41 PM EST
#547. Because I though all you ditto heads was rich, and could afford to bye me one. Gee didn’t that trickle down economics work for you either? Gee am I not entitled and audience the same as El Tubbo? Gee ain’t ya going to fight for my right to be heard also? Oh ya the only thing ole Rush has worked in years is his big mouth, and I’ll give you that, he has worked it hard. To bad nothing intelligent has come out of it however. As another individual would say “how’s that working for you”? (anything El Tubbo has said in the past eight years).

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/16/09, 10:34 PM EST
You aren’t even making any sense. Someone said earlier you sound jealous. I think they are right—and really bitter. Such a hate monger. Tsk tsk.

Posted by Glad I'm not named wb heath 02/16/09, 10:37 PM EST
“You aren’t even making any sense”. Need I say more? This is what the typical ditto head is all about, unless you spell it out for them, or draw them pictures, they are lost. I deliberately do not spell it out, nor do I draw you pictures, but if you make the attempt to think about what I am trying to get you to think about, you may for once have your actual own thought and not one somebody else said you had to have. Gee I guess I must be way to deep for some of you. Yes I do have a very strong dislike for hypocrites, I will admit to that, so if that makes me a hate monger, I guess I am one after all.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/16/09, 11:17 PM EST
To Chris D the dittohead: Although your post barely merits a response, I will spend a few minutes in what will most likely be a failed attempt to enlighten you. Here’s a link to the El Tubbo article in Wikipedia. You are familiar with that site, right? The article merely highlights some of Rush’s more meritorious achievements. You obviously use the Internet. Google a search for El Tub o’ Lard and see what pops up. 99% of them will no doubt focus on one of his more sinister initiatives. Happy reading - oh, almost forgot—WB Heath, #558 - ditto!!!

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/17/09, 06:56 AM EST
Chris D - let me know if you’re really interested in some other serious issues surrounding Rush that’s not so obvious from the wiki article. You dittoheads like to connect the dots right? Connect the dots from Rush to our good friend Rupert Murdoch. You know who he is, right? You neo-cons like to accuse the media of a liberal bias while you soak up propaganda from Fox and other ultra conservative feeds. Better wake up and smell the coffee. The media here is America, especially conservative outlets, is being taken over by foreign interests and his name is Mudoch. That’s the real problem. It is sad that no one will realize until its too late.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/17/09, 07:06 AM EST
No time for a more lengthy response, I will get to that later, but I had to respond to this one.

You called me, and Rush, neo-con’s. Thank you, but my Conservatism is not watered down with Socialism. Nor am I a former Democrat, that disagreed with the anti-war stance the Democrats have/had taken. I am not a neo-con.

If you wish to call me a name, you should at least know what it means.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/17/09, 06:07 PM EST
OK.. I have the time to respond to the rest of your failed attempts at reason.

WB. Do you really think all Conservatives are rich?
IDK, you said you were going to “spend a few minutes” to respond. Then you phone it in and just provide me a link to Wikipedia. Whew, I bet that was hard.

BTW, I don’t need to worry about the sections on the Wikipedia article you are referencing. These sections are proceeded by the Wikipedia disclaimer “The neutrality of this section is disputed.” And the links provided in these sections seem to all point to Liberal sources. That’s not exactly what any honest person would call proof.

Further. You imply by your statements, that since Rush has ties to Conservatives, and other people you don’t like for some reason, that automatically invalidates what he says.

Obama has ties to the terrorist William Ayers. Does that automatically invalidate everything he says?
On the phrase you use as an insult; “dittoheads”. Limbaugh often explains in his books and radio shows, these are not necessarily those who agree with his views. Rather, they are people who love the show and what he’s doing, and hope he never stops doing it. The term came into use because callers would frequently begin by giving praise and thanks to Limbaugh. Knowing that the caller’s and listener’s time is valuable, one caller simply said roughly “ditto to what those guys said (how much they enjoyed the show).” Thereafter, callers were encouraged to simply say, “Dittos,” and then get right to their point. Ditto’s means “I like the show”, not that “I have no brain, please tell me what to think”.

Further, I have never called the Rush show, and thus have never said “Ditto’s” to Rush. Therefore, not ‘Dittohead’

Sorry to bring up more of these pesky facts.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/17/09, 09:04 PM EST
Ah one has pointed the way to learning more about the background of your El Tubbo. Hark do I hear shades of mediocrity for the ole Rush? Oh learned ones, perhaps your hero is a snake oil sales man after all. Tune into the continuing saga, Will the ditto heads respond, will we be educated and will the truth prevail?

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/17/09, 09:11 PM EST
Mr/Mrs Heath,

Right above your post is a response. Are you going to answer it? I think you are the ones not responding.

Posted by Yoiks in USA 02/17/09, 09:18 PM EST
Hey Chris D: What would you have labeled Barry Goldwater as? Oh by the way, I worked on his campaign when he ran for president back in the 1960’s.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/17/09, 09:20 PM EST
#564. Nope! Not relevant to what I am trying to bring to the table so to speak. Chris D, likes to try and bait people. I don’t fall for that so easily.

W. B. Heath and it’s Mr.

Posted by W B Heath 02/17/09, 09:27 PM EST

What is it that you are “trying to bring to the table so to speak”? If you have stated it clearly before, please bear with us and state it again, so I can respond.
What does Barry Goldwater have to do with me, or Rush, or this discussion?
Bait!?!?! This whole website is bait. I have bit and am wiggling on the hook. Do you have to fortitude to reel me in, or am I going to slip off the hook. You seem to have lost littlebuddie, but I am still here.

I see it more as, I ask telling questions, that are on topic, and in fact direct responses to other comments here. And you, not so cleverly, never answer my questions.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/17/09, 10:03 PM EST
What, Can’t figure out how to get out of my questions this time, so you just disappear?

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/18/09, 06:14 AM EST
Chris D - Thank you for the enlightenment and for explaining labels although for me this was not required. I prefer to think of the terms “dittohead” and “neo-con” as slurs, hence my use of them when I reference the likes of you. However, this morning I find myself with some regrets for engaging in name calling and offer my apologies. Since it is convenient to refer to a group of individuals discretely when discussing subjects like politics I propose the following. I’ll refer to all of you as Martians, which shall include (but not be limited to) republicans, conservatives, neo-cons, right-wingers, and dittoheads. I may also lump libertarian and traditionalist in there too if its relevant to the thread. Now that we have that cleared up let’s get on to matters of more substance. Proving that El Tubbo is biased is similar to proving that Dubya protected us from a terrorist strike during his tenure. It is a subjective statement and virtually impossible to prove true or false. Having said that, I cannot prove he is and you cannot prove he is not. As for the disputed portions of the wiki article, this is quite understandable. El Tubbo is undoubtedly a public figure of some stature (roughly 659 pounds) and does have quite a loyal following of Martians. It is obvious that several in this crowd would dispute the accuracy of the wiki article. I’m not sure if this site limits individual posts so I’ll close this one but I remain available for additional discourse. Have a nice Liberal day.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/18/09, 06:37 AM EST
Chris D - one last thing before I get off to work (yes, some of us Liberals do indeed work). Re #568: While you might slaver over your keyboard waiting for unsuspecting “libs” to debate some of us have other things to do. Please be patient. I’m sure all of your questions will be answered in due course.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/18/09, 06:41 AM EST
slaver slaver slaver slaver


Can’t help yourself. Just had to slip in an insult. NP, I understand. I have to fight the urge to be much harsher myself. This thread is getting way too long. Lets move on to more current topics and threads.

We tried it once, then somehow we got drug back here.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/18/09, 09:13 AM EST
Barry Goldwater was most likely the most conservative Republican to come along in a very long time during that time period. Nope,I don’t answer your questions, and I do not intend to. I have stated that I think Rush Limbaugh is nothing more than a modern day snake oil sales man, or if you prefer a film flam man. What was his salary last year? Who owns the majority of the radio stations he broadcast over. Sorry but I do not believe one word he has to say! Yes I would sign any document circulated to have him removed from the public air ways, If he wants to broadcast his garbage, let him do it with Howard Stern and Don Imus.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/18/09, 01:17 PM EST
My, my, how this thread has grown in a worrisome way! If you throw stones and sticks at another person and heap insult upon them, they will simply return the favor if so inclined. If you attack the basis of their argument, their premise, and dig the ground upon which they stand out from under them, surely they will fall.

Focus, people, focus!

Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 02/18/09, 03:26 PM EST
Chris D - Yes, mia culpa!! Apologies for not responding sooner, but have been net challenged for most of the day. I agree. We’ve beat this issue to death. Let’s move on to something else. Any ideas?

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/18/09, 04:12 PM EST

The question I asked most recently that you refuse to answer was asking what you were “trying to bring to the table”. If you don’t want to make your point, I don’t mind. I also still miss the relevance of your Barry Goldwater reference.


I have tried and tried, but they will not address on-topic questions. They instead attack typos, and details. When I accept their details, and modify my question, they still will not respond. I admit to having gotten frustrated, and beginning to be more directly insulting in my tone, but thinking that they will crumble under the power of logic is apparently a fantasy. Much like the world they live in, and the ‘facts’ they cling to.

I dont know, ANYTHING other than Rush. The current Blog entry sounds good.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/18/09, 05:58 PM EST
“I don’t know, ANYTHING other than Rush.” Hey that sort of says it all. Now as for what I was trying to bring to the table so to speak, is that Rush is nothing more than a loud mouth who has spun his rhetoric to fit the current trend over and over again, thus in my opinion he’s nothing more than a con artist, and those who lend credence to what he says are in my opinion buffoons. Does that answer your insignificant questions?

W, B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/18/09, 09:32 PM EST
It was your point. If you want to call it insignificant, fine with me.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/18/09, 09:52 PM EST
Chris D - Ok, Rush it is. I’m curious. Is there any way to get “premium” content from his web site other than paying for an account? I dont have time to listen to him on radio.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/19/09, 07:06 AM EST
Not that I know of

Posted by Chris D in CA 02/19/09, 08:09 AM EST
I do believe that our Good Friend W B Heath just hit the nail right on the head! Rush Limbaugh is an Artist, an Entertainer… whether or not he is a “con artist” should be left up to individual opinion, I believe. The reason that he is so successful is that he can take dry topics and make them interesting to people by “striking a chord”, so to speak. He appeals to conservatives because he imposes his own conservative views on news items in order to make his program interesting… he has learned that this is what his listeners want to hear, what they *expect* to hear. If you want to call this “spin”, that’s fine… I call it ingenious and masterful, as well as highly successful.

I don’t think that it matters whether or not one agrees with what Rush Limbaugh says… this point is irrelevant as everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It doesn’t even matter if you listen to Rush Limbaugh or not… everyone has the right to change the radio station if you don’t like what you are listening to. However, I do think that it matters when one group of people tries to dictate and control what the vast majority of people are listening to. To me, this is the major issue here, as it should be to everyone who cherishes their freedom and liberty.

God help us, one and all.

Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 02/19/09, 01:07 PM EST
#580. If people want to pay to listen to Ole Rush, then I got no problem with that, but across the public airways? Well I’ve got a problem with that.They got rid of two other talk radio types, and perhaps more, wouldn’t bother me if Rush were yet another in that category.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/19/09, 07:33 PM EST
W. B. Heath,

I assume you are making a reference to Howard Stern and Don Imus (gathered from a previous post). Stern is a degenerate (in my opinion) and was found guilty of FCC violations and subsequently dropped. Imus, although not charged by the FCC, was dropped as well for good reason. To my knowledge, Limbaugh isn’t in violation of anything except expressing his opinion, however contorted that may be. It just so happens that people enjoy listening to his point of view, and that has made him extremely successful.

If you are so enraged by Limbaugh, you are encouraged to voice your concerns, and signing petitions is one way to do that. However, I do feel that it is inappropriate for political organizations (such as DCCC) to field such efforts, as this entire deal reeks of an attempt at censorship by the government, and that is a very bad thing.

So, perhaps it would be more appropriate to go directly to Limbaugh’s sponsors and complain to them… that seems to be how Imus got canned. The free market is a direct reflection of what people want… if the people don’t want Limbaugh, then so be it. However, government should have no hand in the say unless laws have been broken.

Best Regards,


Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 02/20/09, 11:12 AM EST
#582. Now if congress or the senate were to introduce legislation to silence anyone, I would be on the steps of the capitol building raising cane. However I see no problem with any, repeat any organization starting and circulating any petition. Individuals are free to sign or not sign as they so chose. I hope you can distinguish between the differences of the government trying to silence freedom of speech and the lawful attempt to start a petition drive. The FCC licence is a public document and anyone has the right to call for a review and the revocation of such.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/20/09, 01:29 PM EST
W. B. Heath,

Thank you for your comments. Yes, I do understand the difference that you point out above, and it is well-taken. However, things being what they are right now, in conjunction with the political clout that the DCCC carries (they do determine who is supported for election/re-election among Dems in the House, you know), this attempt at censorship (and I do say that whole-heartedly) reeks of the same stink carried by what Reid tried to do in the Senate. Only this time, it’s the House of Representatives doing the dirty work.

Anyway, I guess this whole thing boils down to just being a matter of ethics… I guess that’s why I’m not a Democrat. You are right, people can either sign or not sign whatever petitions they choose. I’ve signed several petitions in support of Rush Limbaugh and, more importantly, in support of Freedom of Speech.

At any rate, this is all very fascinating… we really do live in the Greatest Nation on Earth! Let’s try to keep it that way. Differences of opinion result in greater diversity in thought, and that leads to better ideas, but only if we listen and think.

Best Regards

Posted by Stephen N. Hayes in Santa Fe, New Mexico 02/20/09, 02:37 PM EST
Stephen Hayes #580 - it does indeed matter what Rush says on the air. By that I mean what he says must (yes must) be factual. Why? Simply because so many listen, believe, and act on his every word. I’m sorry but it is simply wrong and irresponsible for Rush to do otherwise because of his loyal following.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/20/09, 02:46 PM EST
It is wrong, and irresponsible for the mainstream media to have such a Liberal bias. But that has not stopped them, nor caused you to complain about it. Rush admits to his bias, but the mainstream media does not. Sounds like it is not Rush who is being irresponsible.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/20/09, 02:55 PM EST
Chris D - I’m not convinced that the mainstream media has any bias other than that driven by ratings. They depict interesting and controversial issues to drive raters in and ratings up. I’m quite certain that they could care less who gets bashed or praised as long as these 2 conditions are satisfied.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/20/09, 03:26 PM EST
Chris D - apologies: drive viewers in not raters.

Posted by ldk in Virginia 02/20/09, 03:38 PM EST
A wee bit of difference with the so called main stream media, there is more than one to pick from. In El Lardy (Rush), you have only one choice.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/20/09, 07:39 PM EST
The DCCC petition against Rush Limbaugh has generated overwhelmingly favorable comments for Rush. Thanks, DCCC! And don’t forget to forward the results to El Rushbo, like you promised. That’s in case you don’t have the address. Rush, keep up the good work. You’re a great American.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/21/09, 11:21 PM EST
Many statements here have reinforced an untrue assertion that Rush is the only source of Conservative opinion. There are many other Talk Radio and TV personalities that present a Conservative view. Rush is not alone, there is more than one to pick from. To specifically state otherwise is an intentional attempt to deceive.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/22/09, 12:22 PM EST
#591. Whom may they be? #590. So what was all the fuss about, and why were so many of you ditto heads afraid of a petition drive?

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/22/09, 01:14 PM EST
Hey folks check out the, I think you’ll find that it is a joke.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/22/09, 01:23 PM EST

If you can’t find them for yourself, you aren’t looking. The question barely warrants a response.

#593, - Parked, not a real site (misspelled I believe) - Inbound email only. No HTTP service. - Parked not a real web site - Evolutions in Business website

Rush’s website is

THX for playing.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/22/09, 01:43 PM EST
#594."The question barely warrants a response.” Gee, and they accused me of not answering their questions. Sound a tad bit hypocritical folks?

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/22/09, 04:07 PM EST
#592. What “fuss”? What “afraid”? We all know El Rushbo runs America. I think it was Harry Reid told us that. If we can’t trust Harry Reid, who can we trust?

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/22/09, 05:49 PM EST
#569. “However, this morning I find myself with some regrets for engaging in name calling and offer my apologies. “ This “apology” doesn’t sound very sincere, especially followed by more name calling. I think it’s a waste of server space to try to prove here that Rush is or is not biased. He is, as all of us are, and he wouldn’t deny it. Much ado about nothing. All opinion is bias. The DCCC petition is an example of it.

What strikes me is the arrogance with which the liberals always insult and attack their adversaries, and they want us to believe they are on a higher moral and spiritual ground. But arrogance isn’t a higher moral value. When you have the truth, you can have humility, and you don’t need arrogance.

If the Rush discussion is getting old hat, I’d like to suggest some other conservative talk radio haters you can listen to and trash: Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Neil Boortz, Laura Ingraham, Curtis Sliwa, Bill Cunningham, Rusty Humphries, Mark Simone, Tammy Bruce, Mike McConnell, Cigar Dave, for example. There are others, but I can’t think of all of them. That should give you a good start.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/22/09, 06:32 PM EST

You didn’t ask for my opinion, you asked me to search for you. I’m willing to give my opinion, but I am not your secretary. You were just being lazy. I can rest assured that the difference is obvious. On that note though, THX for the list Eric.

What, No comment on your “” debacle.. LOL

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/22/09, 07:51 PM EST
#598. And thanks for your thoughtful posts, Chris. I appreciate the way you bring facts to the table, and your reasoned arguments, avoiding slurs, name calling, and implication of sub-standard mental and emotional capacity on the part of your opponents. That’s something that’s lacking from your adversaries.

My personal favorite among the conservative talk radio haters is Mark Levin. We call him The Great One. He’s a close friend of Limbaugh and Hannity. He’s not above name calling, but he’s earned the right to do so. He’s a constitutional expert and constitutional lawyer, and worked for the Attorney General in the Reagan administration. Now he has the fastest growing talk show on radio, and the opposition would really love to shut him up. He knows how this stuff works, and what it means, and he explains it in ways even libs can understand. That’s why they hate him. If you can’t find him on the radio, you can hear his archived shows on his website, free of charge, at

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

What part of this very simple statement is it that you libs don’t understand?

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/22/09, 09:17 PM EST
Have not heard about a one of the individuals listed in post # 597, are any of them syndicated? Not lazy Chris D:, just don’t give a rat’s butt, because I think the bias media outcry is a bunch of hug wash. If there is any depiction of bias, it can easily be contributed to El Lardy (Rush), one of the reasons I want to see him off the public airway. An just for the record, I think Harry Reid is a horses behind with the intelligence of an idiot.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/22/09, 09:31 PM EST

“and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances” What part of this statement do you wish to do away with. Can’t stand the fact that an FCC broadcast licence is open for public scrutiny, and that anyone has the right to call for a review and revocation of such? As long as it favors your guy/gal that’s o.k., but if not it isn’t? The last I knew, and I could be wrong, truth in broadcasting was a desirous thing. It’s fine to have a talk show for entertainment, but when it starts to effect policy and legislation, then yes I do have a problem with that, and the above opening remarks apply.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/22/09, 09:45 PM EST
#600. Yeah, some of them are syndicated. You could look it up.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/22/09, 09:55 PM EST
#601. If I understand what you’re trying to say, you’re understanding of “petition the government for a redress of grievances” is that you are petitioning the government to silence critics of the government and those who disagree with you, or those who you think are lying, or those who may be able to influence policy and legislation. Is that what you’re saying?

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/22/09, 10:08 PM EST
I’m going out on a limb here, but you all do know that “petition the Government for a redress of grievances” is talking about grievances from the Federal Government, and our right to make the Federal Government stop exceeding their authority, don’t you? This in no way has anything to do with FCC licensing, or any legal methods we may or may not have to censor another citizen.

oh, and…

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/23/09, 05:30 AM EST
Seeing as how El Lardy (Rush) was not elected to any political body, I do think I have a right to try and ensure that his bias ideas are not taken into consideration when a legislative body does makes laws.Now if you consider that censorship so be it. Criticize the government all you want, heck I do it all the time, but I have no influence over the public airway, whereas El Lardy (Rush) does, and therein lies the difference. I think you refuse to admit that the airways are public, controlled by the FCC in the U.S.A. and citizens can ask for a review and revocation of the right to broadcast over the public airway. If that also is censorship again so be it. I think I have said that if you want to listen to his garbage over a pay network, go for it, but I take umbrage of my tax dollars supporting the likes of El Lardy (Rush) in any way shape, forum or fashion.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/23/09, 12:11 PM EST
How are your tax dollars supporting Rush? ?

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/23/09, 05:11 PM EST
#605. You have a right to lobby the government to not listen to Rush Limbaugh. Obama did the same thing when he told congress “You can’t listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done.” And Rush Limbaugh has a right to lobby government to listen to him. See his excellent op-ed in The Wall Street Journal,

And you have a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, which is, as ChrisD correctly explained, is about government doing things wrong against us. It’s not about asking government to censor those you disagree with and those who criticize government. When you give government that power, they have that same censorship power over you. They won’t spare you when they censor Rush Limbaugh, because they don’t care any more about you than they do about him or any other individual that they find they can exercise power over. According to Harry Reid, you’re nothing but a “taxpaying unit”.

The fact that you’re willing to accept censorship (probably only as long as it doesn’t apply to you or those you agree with) shows that you don’t understand the Constitution and you don’t value freedom over tyranny. You have a right to accept tyranny for yourself, but you don’t have a right to impose it on others.

You’re misinformed if you think your tax dollars support Rush Limbaugh. That’s reserved for media like NPR, which is liberal, and which conservatives are forced to pay for by taxes, and liberal media like NBC and MSNBC, which are owned by GE, which gets government subsidies. These media follow the liberal, Democrat party line. Clear Channel is private enterprise, not government subsidized, supported by advertising dollars. If you don’t want to financially support Limbaugh, you do that by not patronizing his sponsors, like Lifelock, Sleep Number Bed, GM, etc. And if government bails out GM with your tax dollars, you can’t blame Rush for that; he’s against it. He only wants GM to survive and grow by customers buying they’re vehicles, with no government interference.

Since Rush is as rich as he is, it’s actually him supporting you with his tax dollars, since you pay less because he pays more. You should actually be grateful to him.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/23/09, 08:44 PM EST
WB, ?

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/23/09, 09:16 PM EST
Once again, PUBLIC AIR WAY! We the PEOPLE own the public air way. #607, for over 20 years I kept your sorry butt free, I’m retired military. And no Limbaugh does not have a right to lobby government to listen to him, if he wants that he needs to run for office himself. He has a right to start a petition drive for individuals to sign to keep his FCC licence, the same as I have a right to request that it be revoked. The people of Nevada can vote Harry Reid out of office, can we do the same with El Lardy (Rush)? If an FCC broadcast licence were not a public document, I would not have a point here, but whether you like it or not them be the facts, and I want El Lardy (Rush) to have his revoked. I also think that yes my tax dollar has gone to aid some station or stations that carries El Lardy’s so called show, Also don’t be so sure that I haven’t complained about some of the bail out expenditures. If I had my way, El Lardy (Rush) would have been paying a lot more in the way of taxes a long time ago, but thanks to his buddy (former El presidente Georgie baby) that didn’t happen, thank goodness that is about to change.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/23/09, 10:52 PM EST

In a continuance of “but I take umbrage of my tax dollars supporting the likes of El Lardy (Rush)” you just said “I also think that yes my tax dollar has gone to aid some station or stations that carries El Lardy’s so called show”. Can you please back that up with some facts? If not, please retract your statement and admit your deception.

Oh, and before I forget,

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/24/09, 12:25 AM EST
#610. If memory serves me correctly, I think that KFI AM 640 in Los Angles CA has been one of the stations, and one whom I forget before that. Seeing as how, I no longer, and haven’t listened to talk radio in a very long time, and don’t give a SH, unless you can show me to be wrong, my statement stands, if I am wrong I will admit it and make an apology. Technically most stations with a FCC license are receiving tax dollars if you stop and think about it.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/24/09, 01:18 PM EST
#610. Found it hot shot. AFRTS (Armed Forces radio and Television Service) carries El Lardy (Rush). Now that is a network that I do know something about, and ain’t no doubt about it it is federally funded.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/24/09, 02:48 PM EST
#612. Unless you can prove your statement with links to facts, your statement does NOT stand. I was unable to find references to KFI getting tax dollars. And, FCC licensing costs money. The FCC charges for licenses. So, no, commercial radio stations are NOT receiving tax dollars “automagically”.

As to AFN. AFN Radio provides 10 stations. Of these one is Talk. The programming includes NPR (liberal), Rush Limbaugh (conservative), Ed Schultz (liberal), Dave Ross (liberal), Allan Colmes (liberal), Sean Hannity (conservative) and other shows. It looks to me like the programming is ballanced, but maybe a little heavy on the liberal content. Taking Rush off would not be balanced. AFN tries to provided a “taste of home” for the forces. This includes shows you may not like, but are nonetheless part of home for many soldiers.

And now that NPR comes up. I thoroughly object to my tax dollars fully supporting such an obviously slanted presentation. Rush is on AFN, and KFI may or may not have received some federal money in the past. But that is NOTHING close to NPR. It’s really disingenuous to Bring up Rush on AFN, and not mention NPR.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/24/09, 10:33 PM EST
I meant that last as a response to #611 and #612. Sorry for any confusion.

I also forgot to mention again the unanswered subject:
For those of you that do not know what I am referencing, please see posts #593, and #594

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/24/09, 10:42 PM EST
“Can you please back that up with some facts? If not, please retract your statement and admit your deception.” You see what zealots these ditto heads are folks? I provided what you asked for and it still is not enough for you I am now convinced that it is a waste of time to have an exchange with the this individual as the brain washing has been just to effective, I really don’t give a rats butt, I think El Lardy (Rush) is nothing more than a modern day snake oil salesman, albeit a very good one, after all a whole bunch of gullible people fall for his pitch. I want to see him confined to pay radio only, and some how I do not feel alone in that wish..

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/24/09, 11:07 PM EST
When I ask for proof, you seem to think it is sufficient to say: “I think that KFI AM 640 in Los Angles CA has been one of the stations, and one whom I forget before that.” I THINK!?!?! I FORGET!?!? Give me a break. I’m sure our readers expect more than that. I expected a link to your proof, if not a well worded enough summary that we could believe you had just read it somewhere, and were relaying the information to us.

I also noticed you have dropped the AFN topic, and well as never explaining what you meant by “”. Your omissions tell us much more than your protestations about my unwillingness to accept your opinion as fact.

Also, multiple times I have allowed you to call me brain washed, or equivalents, without mentioning it, but I feel this is the appropriate time to highlight it. At every step in this discussion I have gone to online and offline references, reading the side notes, and often, reading the underlying preceding articles. Then I have provided a reasoned discussion of my results. Rush is not here helping me with my research. Rush is not on the other end of the phone telling me what to type. I am not sending emergency emails to Rush to ask him what I should say. No, Instead, I am using my own eyes, hands, and brain to make your own words seem so foolish.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/25/09, 12:44 AM EST
#609. Thank you for your service to our country. My “sorry butt”? Is that how you view all Americans who you served to protect their freedom, or only the ones you disagree with politically? It’s hard to understand how someone can serve in the military to defend our freedom and our Constitution and then be willing to give up our freedom of speech to government tyranny.

I’ve heard current military personnel, fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, on talk radio, saying they can’t understand how the freedom they’re fighting for is being lost to us at home. It’s like they’re risking their lives for nothing. You seem to support abrogating the right of free speech for Americans, part of the freedom they fight for. How is it that you think we don’t have a right of free speech unless we are elected to office? By tat standard, you have no right to express your opinion in your posts.

The public “air waves” (not air way) are regulated by the FCC to make sure radio frequencies are assigned to broadcasters so they don’t overlap and interfere with each other. The intention of the regulation was never to regulate content. That would be prohibited by the First Amendment. FCC authority came to be used to also regulate content in terms of misleading advertising (although that doesn’t seem to be carefully regulated) and things like obscenity and pornography, which of course are subjective. Today, obscenity and pornography are rampant in broadcast TV.

Regulating content on broadcast radio of political and opinion speech is unconstitutional. The so-called Fairness Doctrine did that for decades, and stifled free speech.

You can vote against Rush by not listening to him, changing the station, turning the radio off, signing DCCC petitions against him, writing your congresspersons to complain, writing the radio station to complain, not patronizing his advertisers, complaining in posts like this and in blogs, sending out emails and letters to complain; there is a myriad of ways to vote against him.

What you don’t have a right to do is to try to have him silenced by government intervention, through a revocation of his right of free speech, guaranteed by the Constitution, the same Constitution you swore to uphold by your military service.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/25/09, 09:46 AM EST
End of line.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/25/09, 09:51 AM EST
#617. Has a bill been introduced in any legislative body to squelch freedom of speech? You keep saying the government is trying to silence El Lardy (Rush), sorry but I do not see that taking place, and if I were convinced that it were be rest assured I would be raising hell. I lash out at anyone who tries to influence the way our country is governed and they have not been elected to any office what so ever, this is not limited to just El Lardy (Rush) by the way. Yes an individual has the right to say what’s on their mind, but I think El Lardy (Rush) and yes a few more besides him go beyond the limits of free speech. Chris D: you are entitled to your opinion, the same as I am entitled to mine, and I think I have made it clear that I do not know the ins and outs of talk radio, nor do I care to, the fact still remains that El Lardy (Rush) has influence in areas for witch he was not elected, and if you want to say that borders on dictatorship then perhaps we are close to why I want him rained in. Eric, walk into any radio or T.V. station and read what is posted in regards to their broadcast responsibilities and then get back to me.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 02:06 PM EST
“the same Constitution you swore to uphold by your military service.” Oh yes I do still try and defend and support that constitution, all of it not just those portions that suit me. I also take umbrage of them that would distort it for their own gain. I also will speak out against them that would change that document for their own gain. The individuals currently in uniform and them that were in uniform are my sisters and brothers, and I will kick hind end of any who even think of disrespecting them. It happened to me, I will not stand to see it happen to them.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 04:57 PM EST
#619. “You keep saying the government is trying to silence El Lardy (Rush),” No, I haven’t said that once. That’s nowhere in my posts. I have said the government has no right to silence free speech. That’s according to the First Amendment. You want to silence him, as you’ve said. But you may have forgotten that Obama told Republicans in congress that they have to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh. And you may have ignored the many Democrat voices in Washington that say they want to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

“I do not see that taking place, and if I were convinced that it were be rest assured I would be raising hell.” In spite of your declaration, you’re not complaining about the people who want to bring back the Fairness Doctrine, which is designed to stifle dissent by requiring government oversight of broadcast content.

“I lash out at anyone who tries to influence the way our country is governed and they have not been elected to any office what so ever, “ You may not understand the concept of government “of the people, by the people and for the people” which is built into the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, but it is about “we the people” being the government, not elected officials. They are supposed to be our representatives, our servants, doing our will. It is our right, our duty and our civic responsibility to participate in government, not only by voting, but by influencing elected officials to do what we want them to do. It’s amazing that you can’t understand that.

When our right of free speech is curtailed, our ability to participate in government is also curtailed, and we move from participatory democracy to tyranny. Which is exactly where we’re headed.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/25/09, 05:21 PM EST
Eric. I do understand the right to contact our elected officials and express our desires. I do understand the right to vote for whom we desire, and I do understand that once an election has been concluded that the person elected is the one to whom we look to make the laws and do the biding of the majority of their constituents. I have also said that if people want to hear garbage (my opinion) on pay radio, then even though I may personally disagree with what is being said I will defend a persons right to say it. Where I draw the line is when an individual thinks that he/she has the right to have a legislative body make policy and laws based solely on their political philosophy. Now you tell me whether El Lardy (Rush) has attempted this very thing or not, and has used the power of his talk show to try and accomplish just that. I really don’t need to know about anything else.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 08:03 PM EST
As far as I know Rush Limbaugh hasn’t tried to make any laws, or get anyone to make a law for him. Many libs have tried to shut hum up, and have sent his boss letters to shut him up. But, if Rush Limbaugh has tried to do this I want to know. Can you give me a link to that?

Posted by Love Rush in the airwaves 02/25/09, 08:58 PM EST
The more I read your post Eric, the more I get to thinking that your intentions are indeed honorable and we just disagree on methods to perhaps accomplish the same goals. If you really are serious, help get the best possible people to run for public office, and then work your butt off to get them elected. Hold your elected representatives responsible, and let them know that you are doing so. Try and be tolerant of others points of view but never compromise your own. Don’t be a sore looser if your candidate looses and election or your political party is no longer in the majority. If you perceive wrong speak out loud and don’t back down. Chris D: I would say the same thing to you also. I hope that with all of the posting I have done here you can see that I try and do what I have just written, but at being 100% social security disabled I am not able to do them all.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 09:20 PM EST
#623. Seeing as how I have not listened to talk radio in over three years now, I could not give you a link. I will however ask this. What is the purpose of his talk show? Could there be good reason why a bunch of people want to shut him up? Rush is subtle but his goal is to influence the political spectrum, and if memory does not fail me he at one time so much as admitted it, but this I can not verify. I look at the company he keeps, the political friends he has and I can but not wonder what influence he is trying to place upon them. I asked to tell me if El Lardy (Rush) has done this or not. I did not ask to provide you Rush lovers with the proof. I am the one who does not like the guy, if you love him so much it should be up to you to prove me wrong.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 09:41 PM EST
You asked us to tell you so I will. I am telling you he has not. There is your proof. If you will not provide your proof, then all we have is mine.

If you try to dispute my proof, you must know I am only using your tactics to give my proof. So, disputing me, is disputing yourself.

Posted by Love Rush in the airwaves 02/25/09, 09:58 PM EST
#626. Operation Chaos!

An effort promoted by Limbaugh to cause chaos in the Democratic Party primaries by encouraging Republican voters to either cross over or change parties (depending on state election law) in order to vote for whichever candidate is trailing, thus prolonging the primary process.

O.K. here is an example, but go ahead and tell me it is not enough or some other such excuse you can come up with for this guy.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 10:07 PM EST
I was going to end my comments on the is thread, but I can’t sit here and let you take advantage of Love Rush.

You said “Where I draw the line is when an individual thinks that he/she has the right to have a legislative body make policy and laws based solely on their political philosophy”

How is his asking Republicans to do the same thing to Democrats that Democrats did to get us John McCain “have[ing] a legislative body make policy and laws”? These shifting arguments are transparent, tiresome, and serve nobody.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/25/09, 10:34 PM EST
How is his asking Republicans to do the same thing to Democrats that Democrats did to get us John McCain “have[ing] a legislative body make policy and laws”? These shifting arguments are transparent, tiresome, and serve nobody.

Gee I guess John McCain did not have to go through the primary and caucus process nor the convention. Have you seen me post that I am in favor of dirty tactics by any one? Right Chris D: my arguments do not serve you or El Lardy (Rush). If you read I said influence the legislative process, once again ya got to spell everything out for you, and dang I did not think you were that dense,

W, B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 10:55 PM EST
His love for tickling and toying with listeners is matched only by his confidence. Limbaugh weaves incendiary emotional tapestries of fact, fiction and half-truths delivered with precision timing. He lambasted Bill Clinton with clockwork regularity, and continues to tout Ronald Reagan as the greatest President of all time. Limbaugh’s observations are trimmed of unnecessary explanation, and his skill at wordsmithery (i.e. coining the phrase feminazi) has often been compared to that of rapper Eminem.

Facts dispensed by Limbaugh are almost never questioned during his program. A hostile caller rarely gets through screeners, and his TV show was regularly delivered before a live, cheering studio audience. Limbaugh doesn’t debate - he prefers to forge a media empire largely based on unchallenged monologues or scripted chains of thought.

This was taken off the WEB by using ASK to search Rush Limbaugh

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/25/09, 11:24 PM EST
#630. But these aren’t your thoughts. You said you got them off the web. You said you haven’t listened to talk radio in three years. How can you parrot this analysis, including its lies, and present it as truth? f you don’t listen to Rush, you don’t know if these things are true. I listen to him, and I know they’re not true.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/25/09, 11:55 PM EST
#629 No. I cut-and-pasted quoted you directly. You said what you said, and you can’t change it now, because your original words are there for all to see.

Rush was asking his audience (individual citizens) to vote in the Democratic primaries. This is in no way, and I quote you directly from #622, a way to “have a legislative body make policy and laws based solely on their political philosophy.”

I think it is time for a paraphrased summary of your thoughts in in total. Let me know if I got you right:
I have served my country and defended all of you. Doing this earned me the right to hate somebody I don’t even listen to, and don’t know. I also have the right to try to silence this person.

Which brings me to a wisdom of mine:
Just because you can do a thing, doesn’t mean you should.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/26/09, 12:56 AM EST
Chris D: You are so full if it. If you want to be influenced by El Lardy (Rush), if you want to listen to a person who will not debate anyone or allow criticism of what he says, and who tries to use his access to the air waves to influence the balance of political philosophy in the senate and congress of the United States, then I guess I am talking to a brick wall. Hell no I don’t listen to that blow hard fat butt, but if you want to, go ahead, but please don’t allow this A hole to persuade individuals to corrupt and entire political party with his B.S. Now argue with me on this.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/26/09, 01:33 PM EST
I guess you have truly ended this conversation. I present structured, reasoned comments and responses. You devolve into insults and rambling. All can see who is thinking independently, and who is not. All can clearly see who is using their brain, and who is a propaganda mouthpiece.

When I corner you logically, you just ignore me. I am going to return the favor and ignore you from now on.

You may have the last word. I’m done with this thread.

Posted by Chris D in Left Coast 02/26/09, 02:21 PM EST
Well we have come to an end. Folks I used the exact same tracts that I heard El Lardy (Rush) use many years ago. Oh yes once upon a time I did listen to him, but I started to see what he really was. Of course these are just my opinions, and all of you are indeed entitled to yours. To those who could see where I was coming from, thank you. To those who could not, I really do feel sorry for you, but I will defend your right to be heard. If you look hard you will see that even thought I can not stand the A hole, I would still defend EL Lardy’s (Rush) right to be heard, although I would have you all pay to do so.

W, B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/26/09, 03:30 PM EST
Personally, I got a big kick out of Operation Chaos. Bye-bye, guys. It’s been fun arguing. Can’t we al just get along?

Don’t forget to listen to The Great One.

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/26/09, 08:11 PM EST
Sorry about the typos, but my disability is a vision problem and I do not always catch them all. I try and run all my post through a spell check as well. but that is not 100% accurate either. It has been fun. There is a guy on the Los Angles CA station KFI AM 640, that I really did like. Bill Handel is his name.

W. B. Heath

Posted by W B Heath 02/26/09, 09:58 PM EST
#637. You’re forgiven for your typos, Mr. Heath. I hope I don’t have to apologize for mine now, too. I could have sworn this discussion was finished. Is this group hug time, now? ; )

Posted by Eric Bystrom in Miami FL 02/27/09, 10:05 PM EST